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post #8446 of 27226
Those pics are all end of round options anyway. None of them would have turned into ANYWHERE near as good of a player as Steve Nash, even at this point in his career.
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Actually, Nash's 2004 Suns team (when he won his first MVP) didn't have much shooters. It was a run and gun team with Amare. They had QRich, Barbosa, Johnson, Marion and not much else when it comes to shooters and only QRich in that list are perennial 3-point specialist. In his next MVP, he lost QRich and Joe Johnson and Bell & Diaw, again just spot up shooters who are just as capable of making shots here and there just like MWP, Barnes or Blake.
The Lakers doesn't need too many more shooters once you look at the roster. Look at the starting 5. Nash, Kobe, MWP, Pau & Bynum. Kobe and MWP can drain the 3s. Pau & Bynum stays in the paint/post. Their bench is a bit thin these days but Blake can hits 3's along with Barnes. Ebanks has shown flashes of Ariza that has also made a few 3's when open. Your post made it seem like they need to get 4-5 more shooters when all they really is maybe 1 at most. Get Ray Allen and problem solved.

 

Honestly, if the Lakers are going to rely on MWP (career 34%) and Barnes (career 33%) to hit 3s, they're in trouble. Even Kobe's not a good 3-point shooter (career 33%.)

 

I would say, if you're not Bynum or Pau, you should be able to consistently hit the 3.

 

And the Lakers can't get Ray unless he signs for the veteran minimum, which isn't happening.

 

EDIT: Granted, just by virtue of playing with Nash I'm sure Barnes and MWP would hit the 3 with better accuracy, but I still wouldn't trust them.

post #8448 of 27226
I love Nash, one of my favorite Canadians ever - doesn't quite make up for the Canucks also giving us Justin Bieber but that's not his fault. but it would be hilarious to see him try to check Westbrook, Parker and CP3 in the playoffs
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post #8449 of 27226
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Honestly, if the Lakers are going to rely on MWP (career 34%) and Barnes (career 33%) to hit 3s, they're in trouble. Even Kobe's not a good 3-point shooter (career 33%.)

I would say, if you're not Bynum or Pau, you should be able to consistently hit the 3.

And the Lakers can't get Ray unless he signs for the veteran minimum, which isn't happening.

EDIT: Granted, just by virtue of playing with Nash I'm sure Barnes and MWP would hit the 3 with better accuracy, but I still wouldn't trust them.

Eh, QRich is a 35% shooter behind the line, JRich at 37%, Ryan Anderson at 38% and Ray Allen is at 40% (the best 3pt shooter in the league, maybe ever?).

I just noticed that Barnes might not even be back. Is he a FA?

Courtney Lee is an FA this year and I think he'd make a good replacement (better shooter, good defender, athletic and hustles a lot). Barbosa could also provide a good boost from the bench, he's still plenty fast and can score when given minutes. Those two are probably the only players they might be able to get for cheap. Other FAs I'd like to see but might too expensive for the Lakers are Delfino, Ilyasova, Belinelli, Meeks, CJ Miles, Rush, Foye, Young and Allen.
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Those pics are all end of round options anyway. None of them would have turned into ANYWHERE near as good of a player as Steve Nash, even at this point in his career.
i'm with rambro on this ... there was a bit of weeping and moaning earlier this month in the media (OK, my paper) about the laker's failures with draft picks. i'd argue that's endemic in the nba. i think you'll probably find more first-round failures than unexpected successes. i'd much rather trade four in the bush for a bird like nash in the hand.
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Interesting, the Clips canceller their meeting with Ray Allen and re-signed Billups and sign JCrawford.
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The Los Angeles Clippers are passing on Ray Allen but will still bolster their backcourt by re-signing Chauncey Billups and adding Jamal Crawford.

Billups, who played 20 games with the Clippers last season before injuring his Achilles' heel, will get a one-year deal, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard. The Los Angeles Times, which first reported the moves, reported that the contract is worth up to $4.3 million.


Crawford, who opted out of the last year of his deal with the Trail Blazers, will receive a multiyear contract. A source told Broussard that he will get a four-year deal for between $21 million and $25 million. The Times reported that he will get a three-year deal for $15.7 million.

The Clippers have been looking for a shooting guard to pair with point guard Chris Paul. Billups played out of position there at the beginning of last season and was successful. When he went down, another point guard, Mo Williams, played minutes at shooting guard.

Paul had been recruiting Allen, who is scheduled to visit the Heat Thursday and who is also a candidate to return to Boston. The Clippers canceled their scheduled Friday visit with Allen, who is the NBA's all-time leader in 3-pointers made.

Crawford, who has come off the bench for much of his career, provides that traditional shooting guard for the Clippers, while Billups gives the team options at both backcourt spots.
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Eh, QRich is a 35% shooter behind the line, JRich at 37%, Ryan Anderson at 38% and Ray Allen is at 40% (the best 3pt shooter in the league, maybe ever?).
I just noticed that Barnes might not even be back. Is he a FA?
Courtney Lee is an FA this year and I think he'd make a good replacement (better shooter, good defender, athletic and hustles a lot). Barbosa could also provide a good boost from the bench, he's still plenty fast and can score when given minutes. Those two are probably the only players they might be able to get for cheap. Other FAs I'd like to see but might too expensive for the Lakers are Delfino, Ilyasova, Belinelli, Meeks, CJ Miles, Rush, Foye, Young and Allen.

 

Looks like Barnes is a free agent.

 

What I think the Lakers need is a better version of MWP/Barnes, i.e. an athletic SF who can defend and hit the corner three.

 

And a stretch-4. Whatever big comes off the bench for Pau/Bynum needs to be able to consistently hit an 18 footer. They still have McBobs and can resign Jordan Hill. Whoever they end up going with should be able to shoot that 18 footer.

 

Granted, the Lakers can't outright sign anyone particularly good, because all they can offer is the veteran minimum and the taxpayer's midlevel exception, which i believe is under $3mil per year.

post #8453 of 27226
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Pau can consistently hit mid-range shots, which makes him even more perfect for pick&rolls with Nash.
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Ya, i think Pau is going to see the biggest benefit from having Nash on the floor with him.

post #8455 of 27226
I'm betting Pau gets traded
post #8456 of 27226
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For who though? Dwights the only possibility but really with Bynum in the team, Dwight will seem redundant. Plus I think Orlando wants Bynum more than Pau, younger and higher ceiling at this point of their careers.
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I think Pau is less likely to get traded now that they have Nash, but if he does, it will probably be for something like Iguodala and Thad Young or something of the like.

post #8458 of 27226
Even if Kobe holds the ball a ton, Nash is a great shooter. They can play off each other pretty well.
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For who though? Dwights the only possibility but really with Bynum in the team, Dwight will seem redundant. Plus I think Orlando wants Bynum more than Pau, younger and higher ceiling at this point of their careers.

I suspect he'll either get thrown in the Howard deal as part of a 3rd team, or...

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I think Pau is less likely to get traded now that they have Nash, but if he does, it will probably be for something like Iguodala and Thad Young or something of the like.

Something like this. Which I would gladly welcome. Iguodala would be a perfect stopper, and someone athletic enough, to go against Miami or OKC.
post #8460 of 27226
Okay let's talk about the Rockets. TANK MODE
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