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post #7936 of 27241
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

LA has that effect on people too, not just athletes.

As does Mclean VA apparently.
post #7937 of 27241
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Originally Posted by jet View Post

I actually used to like garnett when he was on minnesota but he turned into a piece of shit when he went to boston, that town just does that to people for some reason.

thats the thing though... they are pampered nba players.... you can't have it all... with nba players being professional MMA fighters/Boxers too.

remember carmelo running like a bitch when 5'8" nate robinson started chasing his ass? once carmelo saw nate's crazy/calm fighter eyes (usually displayed from a guy who actually knows how to fight) bullies usually will back down.

99% of the nba is fake tough guys. plus its just too expensive to actually go through with a fight (artest lost like $6,000,000 in salary alone because of one). money is the true buffer... so when its about to go down the money angels that sits on BOTH the right and left shoulders of nba players remind them to stand down.

lebron needs to manage his game where he's rested in the 4th quarter. he shoots his wad too quick. highlight dunks/turnaround jumpers in the first 3Qtrs isn't going to cut it when durant is dropping 17 easy points in the 4th.
post #7938 of 27241
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Originally Posted by jet View Post

I actually used to like garnett when he was on minnesota but he turned into a piece of shit when he went to boston, that town just does that to people for some reason.

he did. but for some reason i still like him. maybe because i get the impression he doesnt try to pretend he isnt a POS.
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As does Mclean VA apparently.

lol

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post #7939 of 27241
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As does Mclean VA apparently.

Whoo... what a comeback. Fuck me, I'm stumped.
post #7940 of 27241
interesting observation - durrant is fucking good at basketball, and his arms are like 80 feet long.
post #7941 of 27241

The only way to stop Durant is to stop him from getting the ball. Miami needs to be physical with him - don't let him get off screens, front him, double him, whatever it takes. Make someone else beat you.

 

Easier said than done, yes, but that's the only way Miami is going to be able to slow down the Thunder offense.

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Originally Posted by moffy View Post

The only way to stop Durant is to stop him from getting the ball. Miami needs to be physical with him - don't let him get off screens, front him, double him, whatever it takes. Make someone else beat you.

Easier said than done, yes, but that's the only way Miami is going to be able to slow down the Thunder offense.

its what LAL did to him in 2009 using artest to manhandle him before getting the ball.

unfortunately durant is more savvy and will defer to harden/westbrook then do the smart thing and wait until the 4th to absorb the contact and attack the defender for the ball. he really doesn't force difficult (double/triple team) contested shots... its really hard when you have 2 other scoring options.

maybe the heat should do what boston/dallas did to them [heat] - mix in a zone defense (box and one that has durrant manned/harassed) and force westbrook to shoot jumpers. (use the advanced stats and force jumpshots from the lowest percentage jumpshot areas on the floor).

its the lesser of two evils. when the jumpers stop falling revert back to man to man/helpside.
post #7943 of 27241
Missed all but about the last 50 seconds of last night's game because I was out dancing (and DJing), but I like the result! On to game two!!

Edit; What's with LeBron guarding Perkins?? Let him guard Durant (or even Harden).
post #7944 of 27241
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Originally Posted by thinman View Post

Edit; What's with LeBron guarding Perkins?? Let him guard Durant (or even Harden).

 

I think it's simply to conserve his energy. With Wade stinking and Bosh getting limited minutes, they need all of LeBron on the offensive end. He already looked gassed towards the end of last game, imagine if he guarded Durant or Harden the whole time.

post #7945 of 27241
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Originally Posted by moffy View Post

I think it's simply to conserve his energy. With Wade stinking and Bosh getting limited minutes, they need all of LeBron on the offensive end. He already looked gassed towards the end of last game, imagine if he guarded Durant or Harden the whole time.

I think you're right, but I also think he needs to step up. If LeBron wants to be regarded as a champion, like Mike, he needs to play like it and that includes guarding the opponent's best player. Battier is a great defender, but I think he and LeBron need to switch off guarding Durant. They need to tire Durant by making him hard work for every basket.
post #7946 of 27241
i like James a lot, but at this point, is he even in the same conversations as the 'Jordans'?
post #7947 of 27241
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Originally Posted by thinman View Post

I think you're right, but I also think he needs to step up. If LeBron wants to be regarded as a champion, like Mike, he needs to play like it and that includes guarding the opponent's best player. Battier is a great defender, but I think he and LeBron need to switch off guarding Durant. They need to tire Durant by making him hard work for every basket.

Tired?

How about 38 pts with the flu? This is why Jordan was miles ahead of LeBron.

post #7948 of 27241
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You know what, I don't thin Lebrons conditioning is as good as we thought. Dude does look tired and exhausted in some of those 40+ min games, he was even caught shutting his eyes on the bench. While Rondo barely looks winded and he plays as much as Bron, he even played 53min in that ot game against the Heat. Durant played 48min in their last game against the Spurs too and he didn't look as winded as Bron and was still dominating in the 4th.

Maybe he has too much pg duties? Gets banged around with bigger bodies more? Hustle, defense, etc... it might be all getting to him but the Heat doesn't really have a choice, he has to be on the court if they want to win.
post #7949 of 27241
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

You know what, I don't thin Lebrons conditioning is as good as we thought. Dude does look tired and exhausted in some of those 40+ min games, he was even caught shutting his eyes on the bench. While Rondo barely looks winded and he plays as much as Bron, he even played 53min in that ot game against the Heat. Durant played 48min in their last game against the Spurs too and he didn't look as winded as Bron and was still dominating in the 4th.
Maybe he has too much pg duties? Gets banged around with bigger bodies more? Hustle, defense, etc... it might be all getting to him but the Heat doesn't really have a choice, he has to be on the court if they want to win.

Bullshit man. Jordan always asked to defend the other teams best player and always took the load offensively and handled the ball as regularly as Lebron.

The only real difference is that he's bigger and has to huff that extra lumber around. But Magic was 6-9. Olajuwon would run a marathon after a double overtime game and then play another 48 and hand his defenders ass to him.

Its a question of will. Rondo played 53 and didnt even break a sweat, same for Durant.
post #7950 of 27241
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Honestly, if he is just not a well conditioned as we think, I doubt any amount of will will help the king. I've always seen Lebron as a beast but really if the shortened season took some of his usual conditioning this season then that could be, could be all the partying and social events/gathering too.

My post had nothing to do with defending the other teams best player, I am merely questioning his conditioning.
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