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post #6496 of 27206
nah. they're doing pretty well even without lin and stoudemire. testimony to depth of their bench
post #6497 of 27206
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post

Note, RFX
The Kobe haters are becoming legion.

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Looks like the hate is either because he hit the game winner or he has stunked up his fantasy league, which you seem to have made the same mistake last year. lol8[1].gif
post #6498 of 27206
nah. i didnt choose him because he was too old. he still sucks. how many 3/20+ games is that now
post #6499 of 27206
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nah. i didnt choose him because he was too old. he still sucks. how many 3/20+ games is that now

This year? Twice.

And it sounds like you've always hated Kobe so I really have no idea what Steve is talking about, like he was the only one who hated Kobe. lol8[1].gif
post #6500 of 27206
wha? i've never hated kobe. dude's aiight in my books. mid 30s and still playing like an allstar? i look at at t-mac, vince carter, etc and feel like that's how kobe should be playing, but he still puts up regular 30, 40 point games.

and you're right it is 2, but he had that 6/28 game earlier in the year.

when i posted that he sucked that day. his fgp is pretty atrocious. and his ability to shoot clutch shots is overrated. the reason he scores so many clutch shots is because he's almost the only one that ever gets them. but besides that dude is nice
post #6501 of 27206
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

Linjury timeot.
Knicks offense will be crawLin.

they are going to need Melo to average about 25ppg and two other players to combine for 45-50ppg during the next few weeks in order to stay in the playoff picture. Even if they do that, you have lin and stats coming back from injuries at the beginning of a playoff series against either the bulls or miami. I think they can beat the bulls without lin/stats, they don't stand a chance against miami without those guys though. We also really miss Jefferies on the defensive end. Fields has been MIA. Woodson needs to see what Douglas and Jordan can do in his scheme, probably going to need those guys and you don't want their first real minutes to come in a playoff game. I was just starting to get excited about the Knicks chances to get to the conference finals frown.gif
post #6502 of 27206
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

wha? i've never hated kobe. dude's aiight in my books. mid 30s and still playing like an allstar? i look at at t-mac, vince carter, etc and feel like that's how kobe should be playing, but he still puts up regular 30, 40 point games.
and you're right it is 2, but he had that 6/28 game earlier in the year.
when i posted that he sucked that day. his fgp is pretty atrocious. and his ability to shoot clutch shots is overrated. the reason he scores so many clutch shots is because he's almost the only one that ever gets them. but besides that dude is nice

Even though his ratio of hitting the final shot for the win or tie is terrible, he further proved that he is who you want shooting that shot. See how terrible he was shooting for the night and he buries that 3 to seal the game. Then iirc a game or two before that (against Warriors), another terrible shooting night but he again buried two jump shots that gave them the win. Overrated or not, I'd dare anyone to pick 5 other players they'd rather take the final shot. Lebron? lol8[1].gif The only ones that come to mind is Durant, Love, Wade and Dirk and I'd likely take Kobe over Love since Love can't create his own shots as well as Kobe, his final clutch shots has been set-up for him when his foot is set.
post #6503 of 27206
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

puzzled.gif
Looks like the hate is either because he hit the game winner or he has stunked up his fantasy league, which you seem to have made the same mistake last year. lol8[1].gif

Not, I had Rondo and Howard.
post #6504 of 27206
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Even though his ratio of hitting the final shot for the win or tie is terrible, he further proved that he is who you want shooting that shot. See how terrible he was shooting for the night and he buries that 3 to seal the game. Then iirc a game or two before that (against Warriors), another terrible shooting night but he again buried two jump shots that gave them the win. Overrated or not, I'd dare anyone to pick 5 other players they'd rather take the final shot. Lebron? lol8[1].gif The only ones that come to mind is Durant, Love, Wade and Dirk and I'd likely take Kobe over Love since Love can't create his own shots as well as Kobe, his final clutch shots has been set-up for him when his foot is set.

i don't disagree with you, but the issue with Kobe during the final play of the game is that you know exactly what he's going to do. i think his skill and killer instinct puts him among the top guys you want on that final play, but since he never passes, the other coach just stacks defenders around him and gives him a ridiculous degree of difficulty.

i actually think that if you want him taking the final shot, don't call a timeout. just inbound the ball after the other team's made basket, give it to him, and let him strike in the open floor/before the defense gets set. don't let the other team diagram exactly what they're going to do to contain him beforehand.

as far as who i'd want with the ball on the final play - it's Chris Paul. you can depend on him to always make the correct play
post #6505 of 27206
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they are going to need Melo to average about 25ppg and two other players to combine for 45-50ppg during the next few weeks in order to stay in the playoff picture. Even if they do that, you have lin and stats coming back from injuries at the beginning of a playoff series against either the bulls or miami. I think they can beat the bulls without lin/stats, they don't stand a chance against miami without those guys though. We also really miss Jefferies on the defensive end. Fields has been MIA. Woodson needs to see what Douglas and Jordan can do in his scheme, probably going to need those guys and you don't want their first real minutes to come in a playoff game. I was just starting to get excited about the Knicks chances to get to the conference finals frown.gif

Dream on. Even with both they would get crushed. Knicks are done for the season, best they can hope for is to be blown out in the first round.
post #6506 of 27206
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

they are going to need Melo to average about 25ppg and two other players to combine for 45-50ppg during the next few weeks in order to stay in the playoff picture. Even if they do that, you have lin and stats coming back from injuries at the beginning of a playoff series against either the bulls or miami. I think they can beat the bulls without lin/stats, they don't stand a chance against miami without those guys though. We also really miss Jefferies on the defensive end. Fields has been MIA. Woodson needs to see what Douglas and Jordan can do in his scheme, probably going to need those guys and you don't want their first real minutes to come in a playoff game. I was just starting to get excited about the Knicks chances to get to the conference finals frown.gif

You, my friend, are a fan.
post #6507 of 27206
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

Dream on. Even with both they would get crushed. Knicks are done for the season, best they can hope for is to be blown out in the first round.

Bulls will have a short playoff run.
post #6508 of 27206
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Even though his ratio of hitting the final shot for the win or tie is terrible, he further proved that he is who you want shooting that shot. See how terrible he was shooting for the night and he buries that 3 to seal the game. Then iirc a game or two before that (against Warriors), another terrible shooting night but he again buried two jump shots that gave them the win. Overrated or not, I'd dare anyone to pick 5 other players they'd rather take the final shot. Lebron? lol8[1].gif The only ones that come to mind is Durant, Love, Wade and Dirk and I'd likely take Kobe over Love since Love can't create his own shots as well as Kobe, his final clutch shots has been set-up for him when his foot is set.

the thing with kobe is he will always make that last shot even if it isn't the correct play to make and is highly contested.

the optimal player imo isn't the one who can consistently make the clutch shots but the one who can consistently make the right play. like MJ is more than capable of making the clutch shot, but he also knows how to pass the ball when he doesn't have a great shot which more often than not seals the game.

if you look at a lot of the lakers clutch time performances when kobe is left alone 1 on 1 he can make the shot (stupid of opposing teams to do like the hornets two days ago).

however when he gets double teamed and he has the ball he will a lot of times still try to score and more often than not he misses, but when he passes to for example an open fisher or when he draws the double team and fisher gets the inbound pass the lakers steal the win (eg the .4 shot against the spurs)


his mental game is outstanding though like you point out. any other player after such a bad streak would play worse as the night wore on but then again any other coach would probably bench you if you did that
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

Dream on. Even with both they would get crushed. Knicks are done for the season, best they can hope for is to be blown out in the first round.

for sure. no way knicks are beating the bulls. it's highly unlikely even with stat and lin.
post #6509 of 27206
This myth that love can't create has to stop already. You don't average 26 with a high per by being a catch and shooter
post #6510 of 27206
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Bulls will have a short playoff run.

Wanna bet?
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