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post #3526 of 27247
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
Looks like its Dallas and Miami in the Finals. Dear god, please let the Mavs win.

this. time to get tickets.
post #3527 of 27247
I like OKC but they choked in the last two games. I love the Mavs and have dreamt of a rematch with Miami, but it's a long shot at best. That team is just too overloaded.
post #3528 of 27247
OKC showed their ass again in the final minutes. They just can't come out of a timeout with a decent play.
post #3529 of 27247
Guys, this was a young team. No young team wins it all. They will be great. They've gotten experience that will make them better.
post #3530 of 27247
Dirk has ice in his veins...I hope he has enough to close Miami off. I just don't want LBJ to win this year...
post #3531 of 27247
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Originally Posted by Mark from Plano View Post
Guys, this was a young team. No young team wins it all. They will be great. They've gotten experience that will make them better.
I honestly don't think that anyone on that team has what it takes to win it all. Durant might be the next George Gervin but its worth remembering that The Iceman never won a championship. As much as I love him, I don't think he's got the juice at this point. He might develop it at some point in the future. We can only hope.
post #3532 of 27247
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
I honestly don't think that anyone on that team has what it takes to win it all. Durant might be the next George Gervin but its worth remembering that The Iceman never won a championship. As much as I love him, I don't think he's got the juice at this point. He might develop it at some point in the future. We can only hope.
Not sure what your point is. Of course they don't have what it takes yet, otherwise they'd have taken it. But Durant is...what?...22? Jordan didn't have what it took until he was 28 and had been through several years of the playoffs. There will be no way to know if he's more like Gervin or Jordan until several years from now. Plus it has a lot to do with constructing a team. Dallas did a good job of identifying OKC's weaknesses and exploiting them. Now it's up to OKC to identify those same weaknesses and shore them up. This is not a bad team. Durant is a beast. In the right role, Westbrook is going to be a perennial all-star. Hardin will be a solid starter and may well develop into a star. Jesus, give these guys a chance to grow up a little bit. Even Jordan wasn't Jordan his third or fourth year in the league. Durant is still a baby, he played one year of college ball. His body will change a lot over the next several years and he'll learn a lot of new skills, especially in the post. It will make him even better. OKC is going to be fine. They're going have a chance to dominate the West over the next several years, I believe.
post #3533 of 27247
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post
I like OKC but they choked in the last two games. I love the Mavs and have dreamt of a rematch with Miami, but it's a long shot at best. That team is just too overloaded.

I am, however, going to put money on Mavs in 7.
post #3534 of 27247
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post
I am, however, going to put money on Mavs in 7.

Probably a good call. All the money will go to Miami. You should get really good odds.
post #3535 of 27247
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
I honestly don't think that anyone on that team has what it takes to win it all. Durant might be the next George Gervin but its worth remembering that The Iceman never won a championship. As much as I love him, I don't think he's got the juice at this point. He might develop it at some point in the future. We can only hope.

It's much more of a Doug Collins problem than a George Gervin problem at this point. Granted, Scott Brooks has only been coaching 2.5 years (is more of a baby than Westbrook and Durant)--but still, the finger goes to him before anyone else this series.

Edit: Does this display any of that juice your talking about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO2eXPOHbGo
post #3536 of 27247
^i dunno. he is young and he made some bad calls and bad plays sometimes, but i think okc in general had trouble executing their plays correctly.
post #3537 of 27247
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post
^i dunno. he is young and he made some bad calls and bad plays sometimes, but i think okc in general had trouble executing their plays correctly.

I take it you don't watch OKC frequently? They don't really run plays...they're offense is primarily generated by individual talent and not by an actual offensive system.
post #3538 of 27247
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Originally Posted by fir3fox View Post

They just can't come out of a timeout with a decent play.

This is something that just pisses the hell out me in the NBA. It's like coaches are scared of the shitstorm that would ensue in the off change you turn the ball over, so they don't let the ball leave their star's hands in these situations.

I would call it risk-averse, but it's not even the high-percentage play. Are they really expecting to get a quality look on James? Boggles the mind.
post #3539 of 27247
you're actually right. i didnt really watch okc until playoffs, but your statement is puzzling

if you're saying okc NEVER runs plays and this is true then yeah you got me. i would be wrong if i said OKC doesnt execute their plays correctly because they dont run plays


on the other hand if you're saying okc only sometimes run plays then i wouldnt be wrong in saying that the plays they do run are incorrectly run much of the time.


so which is it?





it is true scott brooks expects westbrook to create shots and that okc doesn't have good ball movement because they don't run a lot of sets (ie the players in many cases just stand around and expect westbrook to do something).

i feel like ppl blame westbrook a lot when you actually look at what the other okc players are doing they're not really doing much. one of the bigs might set a screen, but it's not really effective. when it does create some good space one screen is usually not enough to finish the job. they also have this weird multiple screen thing going on up top (like 2 chaotic screens right after another beyond the 3 pt line) and it doesnt really do anything.

i think if anything brooks is to blame.

anyways they're very young and athletic and hopefully with some playoff experience now they'll be better.
post #3540 of 27247
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Originally Posted by reezy View Post
Dirk has ice in his veins...I hope he has enough to close Miami off. I just don't want LBJ to win ever.

FTFY
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