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post #3166 of 27206
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Thanks for letting me vent guys!

don't worry we still have our Sawx to cheer for....

maybe the bruins though.
post #3167 of 27206
Come on Chicago! You're my last chance to have the Heat lose! Don't let me down!
post #3168 of 27206
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
Come on Chicago! You're my last chance to have the Heat lose! Don't let me down!


I had been looking forward to a Bulls/Celtics playoff series all year. Bulls/Heat is going to be pretty good, though. Neither team seems to have the greatest answer for the others strengths. Looking forward to it.
post #3169 of 27206
Don't count out the mavs?
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Watching snippets of NBA analysis, everyone seems to include Mavericks as a young team along with the Thunder, Grizzlies and Nuggets. I never considered the Mavs as a young team, especially with Kidd as PG. With the other younger teams coming up and Lakers possibly blowing up to become younger, is it championship-or-bust for the Dallas Mavericks? Your thoughts and opinions please. Thanks
post #3171 of 27206
All they gotta do is defend against the three and mavs are donezo.

Going to be interesting to see chicago/heat and who wins this okc/memphis series though looks like it's going to be durant and co.
post #3172 of 27206
the worst part is all the planets are fucking aligning for the heat... because they have no significant injuries...

Grizz - no west
Mavs - no butler
Bulls - rose's ankle
Thunder - westbrook's ballhog-itis AKA Starbury-itis.

The good thing for the heat - all the assholes on the celtics no one retaliated on D-wade/heat for rondo's injury. It was obvious that it was the fall and way rondo landed that caused the elbow dislocation but still d-wade purposely tangled legs and caused the fall. Its those little things that cause huge swings.

if anything at least there are some great defensive centers that will plug holes on slashing wade/lebron with chandler/noah/perkins/ibaka.
post #3173 of 27206
But the best part is that this year's finals will have no Kobe, Shaq or Duncan, haven't seen that in a while. And no matter who wins, of the remaining teams left one of the NBA's superstars is going to win their first ring... Either Rose, Lebron, Dirk or Durant.
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post
Thanks for letting me vent guys!

At least you can be proud of the way the played in their elimination game. They lost by 10 but it was a lot closer than that. They fought and showed a lot of class in defeat. **Unlike the Lakers that laid down like the dogs they are!

**I might be throwing dirt on ALT, MEM a little early....
post #3175 of 27206
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Originally Posted by Cordwinder View Post
Watching snippets of NBA analysis, everyone seems to include Mavericks as a young team along with the Thunder, Grizzlies and Nuggets. I never considered the Mavs as a young team, especially with Kidd as PG. With the other younger teams coming up and Lakers possibly blowing up to become younger, is it championship-or-bust for the Dallas Mavericks?

Your thoughts and opinions please. Thanks

Not sure who is saying Dallas is a young team:

Starters:
Kidd--38 (16 seasons)
Stevenson--30 (10 seasons)
Marion--33 (11 seasons)
Chandler--28 (9 seasons)
Nowitzki--32 (12 seasons)

Key Bench:
Terry--33 (11 seasons)
Stojakovic--33 (12 seasons)
Haywood--31 (9 seasons)
Barea--26 (4 seasons)

As you can see, the only Chandler and Barea are under 30. This is a veteran team for sure. I don't know if I'd say that it's championship or bust for the Mavs, but the window on the Dirk era is definitely closing and Kidd is playing on borrowed time for sure. They may have one or two more runs in them after this year, but as we know there are no guarantees and I think that after what happened in 2006, and then not making it back again until this year, this team definitately has a sense of urgency that the stars might not align for them again during the remaining years Dirk has left. So while it may not be championship or bust, they are playing as if it is.
post #3176 of 27206
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Originally Posted by jet View Post
All they gotta do is defend against the three and mavs are donezo.

You really haven't watched much of the Mavs this year have you?

The Mavs killed the Lakers with 3's because that's what the Lakers gave them, but if anyone thinks that the Mavs are nothing but a 1990's/2000's Phoenix/Sacramento/Golden State clone then you're going to get thrashed.

Dirk and Kidd punished Portland in the paint. Dallas has shown this year that they can win games in lots of different ways depending on what team they are playing.

The Mavs main weakness is that their perimeter defenders are either marginal defenders (Terry) or good defenders who have lost a step (Kidd). Dirk is a marginal one-on-one defender as well. However, the defensive rotations that Carlile has worked on all year to cover some of their weaknesses seem finally to be setting in. It was enough to shut down the Lakers, but I'm concerned about whether it will continue to hold up against a truly athletic team like Miami.

I'm not worried about the Mavs finding enough offense, even if someone shuts them down at the 3 point line. What I am worried about is them being able to maintain defensive discipline in the face of a really athletic team.
post #3177 of 27206
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post
the worst part is all the planets are fucking aligning for the heat... because they have no significant injuries... Grizz - no west Mavs - no butler Bulls - rose's ankle Thunder - westbrook's ballhog-itis AKA Starbury-itis. The good thing for the heat - all the assholes on the celtics no one retaliated on D-wade/heat for rondo's injury. It was obvious that it was the fall and way rondo landed that caused the elbow dislocation but still d-wade purposely tangled legs and caused the fall. Its those little things that cause huge swings. if anything at least there are some great defensive centers that will plug holes on slashing wade/lebron with chandler/noah/perkins/ibaka.
I think you meant hornets on the first one..the grizz are pretty healthy, as are the Thunder. The Lakers were as well, and Rose's ankle isn't affecting his game as far as I can see. I see what you mean on the leg tangling thing with Wade, but Rondo was already riding piggyback on him by the time that happened. I say that they were both at fault. Also, I don't get people who say Wade injured Rondo deliberately (I know you didn't say it, but I've heard it elsewhere)...do that 1000 times, and someone will get hurt maybe once. It was a freak accident
post #3178 of 27206
I think he meant no Rudy Gay
post #3179 of 27206
Apparently Caron Butler was dunking in practice this week and is hell-bent on trying to return during the playoffs. Carlile had totally ruled him out for the Laker series, but hasn't done that yet for the WCF.

Now, how he will perform after missing 2/3rds of the season and whether it will screw up the Mavs existing rotations, etc. is anybody's guess. All that assumes that he could even get medical clearance to play...again, anybody's guess.

It is fun to think about though. He was supposed to be Robin to Dirk's Batman this year and the Mavs have been able to do what they've done so far without him. At 100% and with a full integration into their systems, he's a net plus on both the offensive and defensive ends and makes a potential matchup against Miami much more interesting.

Perhaps he can get into a few games during the next round and then be fully ready to go if the Mavs take care of business. Who knows. Like I say, it's fun to think about.

Dirk's comment this week was that they were fully focused on the folks they knew were going to play.
post #3180 of 27206
he's a helluva player. he was the one that i really hated to see go in the pau trade.
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