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Originally Posted by kissmyjazz View Post

If your team has enough star power, then good players like David West will gladly polish your bench for min salary. Honestly the majority of players getting min salary are no name journeymen or youngins who have not established themselves yet. There is a small number of middle tier guys who are underpaid on their current contract, but usually if they remain healthy, they will be overpaid on their next contract, so everything balances out nicely,
PHI is interesting team, but its recent history illustrates nicely how hard is it to stick to non-orthodox practices. It is also dreadful experience to be their fan, I imagine.

Seems like a quick solution to balance out this mid-tier overpay lunacy is to raise the minimum salary to a level that forces a reasonable % of the team's salary to go into the bench.
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Mo Buckets to the Clips, I guess they could do worse? At least he's a stretch 5 that Doc loves, should open up the floor more.

At least it's just for the league minimum.
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Nets Crabbe deal is hilarious. He's a good piece, but has one above average skill (shooting). Can't put it on the ground; can't create his own shots; doesn't pass; won't overachieve on D. I hope the Blazers let him walk.

 

Ezeli's knees are probably done, but Olshey got a no-risk/high-reward contract (second year is even a team option!).

 

Speights won't do a lot to help LAC. Can hit Js but it turns out you can spell Marreese without D.

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I still say losing Bogut and replacing him with West and Zaza is going to leave a mark. I love Zaza (I watch most Bucks games. Can't help it: Antetokounmpo obsession.) and as smart and useful as he is, he's not 10% the passer/court-seer that Bogut is, and, as I wrote before, he doesn't protect the rim. West is a tough guy and can replace Speights' mid-range J game. Both guys will fight for rebounds, which is good, but they don't do a ton else.

 

Bogut's high post court vision was an unsung linchpin in GS, and dude. blocks. shots.

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Javale Mcgee waived by the Mavs. Add another one to the scrap pile of upside guys that just had to be paid to see how they panned out.

While it was painfully obvious he lacked the IQ for even a liquor store job, he still earned $12m a year. Ya I know, that's cheap now. It was always a waste of money to me, and I was right. You'll see the same with that Gobert oaf in Utah.
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Fuuuuuckkkkkk. Mo left frown.gif. Def one of my favorite players on that team.


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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

That's not smart business logic because it compels you to overspend. Players aren't suddenly twice as valuable. The cap just went up. One doesn't make the other true, this is the classic bubble mentality, you have money available so you spend wildly on assets that are way overvalued.

Just because something might appear cheap in the future doesn't make it so. Khwai earns fair market value, so does Steph. Steph would be worth a max deal within the current cap structure, but Bradly Beal? Not a chance. Beal was never worth a max in last year's terms, and will never 'look cheap'.

I wasn't as observant of player spend a few years ago, but now that I pay attention I realize what shit businessmen these execs really are. Instead of looking for value in the market, they overspend on overpriced assets. Smart money would not buy in to this market. Let the dumb money dry up because in a year or two valuations will reset. I'm very surprised at Mark Cuban. In his defense I can only suspect that he never saw Durant leaving and that he was tying GSWs hands on Barnes, and it backfired. I'm pretty sure I'm right about this but If I'm wrong, I've lost a lot of respect for his ability to value assets.


What are you talking about. Owners have to spend half of all basketball related income to the players. It's in the CBA. There's a salary minimum you have to spend and they have to spend half of the new tv income. Only overspending is if they go into luxury tax and they make a shit ton more money than they spend on luxury tax especially considering that valuations of franchises of increased by multiples the past few years.

Why are you so concerned with how much money billionaires make over how much millionaires make?
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Fuuuuuckkkkkk. Mo left frown.gif. Def one of my favorite players on that team.

I just hopes he lands on Kings or Wolves so I won't have to look at his disgusting mole again.
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

Fuuuuuckkkkkk. Mo left frown.gif. Def one of my favorite players on that team.
What are you talking about. Owners have to spend half of all basketball related income to the players. It's in the CBA. There's a salary minimum you have to spend and they have to spend half of the new tv income. Only overspending is if they go into luxury tax and they make a shit ton more money than they spend on luxury tax especially considering that valuations of franchises of increased by multiples the past few years.

Why are you so concerned with how much money billionaires make over how much millionaires make?

What, no platitudes?

What I'm talking about is the salary floor. The 'punishment' for not paying the minimum salary threshold is that you pay the difference to the 90% number. You don't have to meet the minimum on players or adhere to the cap because in both instances you're taxed. An owner can field 12 NBA min salaries and pay the difference in tax. Unless the rules have changed, which I don't believe they have, you're wrong.

You lack reading comprehension, I'm not concerned about what billionaires make vs what millionaires make. I see stupidity in these salary decisions for players that are not even close to worth the contracts their getting. I'm presenting reasonable arguments against the behavior I see from league executives towards player contracts. If you have a point to make related to why players are worth these deals, by all means, otherwise go back to your hole of generic comments that everyone will agree with.
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

I just hopes he lands on Kings or Wolves so I won't have to look at his disgusting mole again.

He's going to the clippers. frown.gif. I was hoping dubs would keep Mo and Barbosa. But at least they're getting paid a lot more
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Ben Simmons can really pass.

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Originally Posted by ballmouse View Post

Ben Simmons can really pass.

Or scared to shoot.
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And.
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Allen Crabbe the latest to get a lunatic contract. $75m for a bench player.
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Tim Duncan is retiring!
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