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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

So was he washed up in San Antonio? Because Pacers David West was a good player (but not much of a shot blocker, I concede).

Or did he just not get a lot of minutes behind TD, LMA and Kawhi?

His per-36's in SA are something like 14/6, with more than a steal and a block a game, plus almost 4 (!!) apg. That's more than solid. And he shot .545 so he was taking smart shots and not clanking much. That apg will be gold in GSW's system, and he'll get all the open midrange shots he wants. Kerr will be thrilled if he takes less shots and focuses on rebounding

I watched nearly all SAS games, and it may be true he didn't get enough minutes. But when he was on the floor against the other team's first unit, I stand by my statements.
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Holy shit.... D Wade is leaving Miami for the Bulls.
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wonder if the good Rev. Stephen A Smith will have anything to say about that...

 

EDIT: just a sideways observation that 2 teams lost franchise free agents that they drafted. truly DGAF about SAS but i would be surprised if he called Wade's departure a weak move.


Edited by double00 - 7/6/16 at 9:42pm
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Crazy that Wades actually leaving, Miami tried to low ball too much after sacrificing so much money to bring in Lebron and Bosh. I think he is getting $47m for 2 years in Chicago?

Rondo, Wade and Butler makes for an interesting backcourt.

Now there are some fears that Whiteside might pull off a Deandre.

Someone check on @Hroi

Lakers get Calderon, Richard Jefferson isn't retiring and going back for two more years to the Cavs and Dunleavy goes to the Cavs.

Ray Allen considering coming back to either Cavs or Dubs, I really like this dude but just stay retired.
post #26795 of 27206
Wow I can't believe it, fuck miami for letting wade go he's a good dude. They did him dirty man so he just put his middle finger up and bounced.

Whiteside feels like an idiot now that's what he gets for not signing with LA.
post #26796 of 27206
I am bummed. Fuck this shit.

The Heat isn't just Wade's team. Miami is his city as far as sports goes. It's not Ryan Tannehill's or Giancarlo Stanton's.

Why not just pay the man? Who else are you gonna pay at this point? And you know you owe him. He gave you money out of his pocket AND he delivered three titles. It's only for two years so it's not like you have this albatross.

And all this from an organization that's renowned for taking care of its players. How the fuck did we get here

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post #26797 of 27206
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They did him dirty man

How, by paying him millions and millions over a whole career? And this is considered a sacrifice? Entitled brat alert. Try living like middle class people.

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Why not just pay the man? Who else are you gonna pay at this point?

It's not like Miami was a true contender anyway. He isn't rich enough? He could have finished his career in Miami, but he chose to act disrespected. Millionaires fighting with billionaires is douche, especially since the common man fills those seats in the arena.

You're talking about a guy on 1 knee, at the tail end of his career. I mean, if we were talking about a superstar like Harrison Barnes it would be another story. But Wade isn't going to deliver more titles, and the organization does have the right to establish their fair value. At 20m he's already way overpaid, so in my mind they are already taking care of him.

Wade didn't get a 3rd year in CHI, and he makes what, 8m more? And now has to pay state tax, not sure what he's thinking either. Just the career state tax savings alone would cover this "sacrifice" he made.

Miami was always heading towards a stagnant period. I don't see Bosch in uniform again. Wade left to play with Rondo, just think about that.
Edited by idfnl - 7/7/16 at 5:38am
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wade had nothing to gain by staying in Miami. he will always be a hero there to the fans, especially the way they painted the picture of him not getting respect from the team.

it's all upside by going to Chicago. same money. hometown boy. no pressure to win since they look like underdogs. but if he by chance does well and goes far in the playoffs, he comes off looking like a hero there.
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wade had nothing to gain by staying in Miami. he will always be a hero there to the fans, especially the way they painted the picture of him not getting respect from the team.

This rich athlete's respect obsession is a demand for idolization. They paid the man millions and millions over a career to bounce around a little ball. They owe him jack shit. If Wade had nothing to gain staying in MIA, then the team had nothing to gain by overpaying him to be there.

If Wade thinks "I'll show them" then he made a bad business decision. If I was Riley, I would have got in front of it July 1: "since we're not going to be contenders next year and likely not before Wade retires, we've made a business decision to not offer him a contract so he can pursue his goals with a contender". Loyalty in business usually ends with something like the Lakers 2015/16.

This idea that certain teams "take care of..." is just an appearance thereof. It's always about self interest.
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I wonder how Gabrielle thinks about Wade moving so close back to this situation:



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man some fucking bridges must have been burned to the ground.


also the Bulls will have a weird assed roster next season. Rondo, Butler, and Wade? its ironic in how Knick's-esque this roster seems in lieu of them trading/losing players to the knicks.
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idnfl - I think there is something to a franchise "taking care" of its stars, as evidenced by the Lake Show and Kobe's last contract. That builds goodwill toward the brand, and ultimately may help to drive consumer loyalty. I just saw snoop dog give Kobe a Lakers boat ride as a retirement gift. That's the sort of thing that is funny but endearing and displays equity. Teams are really only an idea. I think Miami could have done better.

Wade has a chance for a good story out in Chicago, his hometown, and what a team with its history and potential star drawing power. Butler is fantastic.
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Every time my phone buzzes I'm afraid it's a text from one of my buddies telling me Bryan Colangelo did something stupid.
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

If Wade thinks "I'll show them" then he made a bad business decision.

I do not think he made a bad business decision. He will get a fat paycheck for one stressful week of negotiations and can relax playing for the mediocre team thereon. The talk about previous sacrifices and "making it right" etc is somewhat misleading, as Wade is still an elite player and his advanced stats are second best in MIA after Whiteside's. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics

He can surely continue to perform on rather high level for the next two years.

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idnfl - I think there is something to a franchise "taking care" of its stars, as evidenced by the Lake Show and Kobe's last contract. That builds goodwill toward the brand, and ultimately may help to drive consumer loyalty.

And like I said, it's just masked self interest. Goodwill towards the "brand" is just code for more money in the owner's pockets. They don't give a shit about the player anymore than the player gives a shit about the team. Anymore than Starbucks gives a shit about loyalty when they award loyalty points to coffee-tards. As voiced by many of former player, it's all about keeping those NBA checks coming for a long as possible.

Legacy, from a player's perspective, is the same shit. They care about legacy because it earns them $$$ after retirement.

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Originally Posted by kissmyjazz View Post

I do not think he made a bad business decision. He will get a fat paycheck for one stressful week of negotiations and can relax playing for the mediocre team thereon. The talk about previous sacrifices and "making it right" etc is somewhat misleading, as Wade is still an elite player and his advanced stats are second best in MIA after Whiteside's. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics
He can surely continue to perform on rather high level for the next two years.

I didn't say he did either. I said that if he did it to "show them", then he did. He isn't going to make more money in Chicago than Miami, that 8m difference will mostly be swallowed up in state/local taxes.

And Wade is definitely not an elite player. He's a skilled veteran on 1 knee that can't play a full season and is on the decline. Chicago got a former all star at 25m a year... a shit piece of business if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by SirGrotius View Post

idnfl - I think there is something to a franchise "taking care" of its stars, as evidenced by the Lake Show and Kobe's last contract. That builds goodwill toward the brand, and ultimately may help to drive consumer loyalty. I just saw snoop dog give Kobe a Lakers boat ride as a retirement gift. That's the sort of thing that is funny but endearing and displays equity. Teams are really only an idea. I think Miami could have done better.

Wade has a chance for a good story out in Chicago, his hometown, and what a team with its history and potential star drawing power. Butler is fantastic.


bro just don't
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