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post #23731 of 27247
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Originally Posted by Akeem View Post

wait, this isn't true?

Boris Diaw is a classic case. In Lin's, he's neither that good an NBA player or fantasy option.
post #23732 of 27247
Actually Diaw was a decent fantasy option before he got fat. All he needs is more PT and he would still make a fantasy roster.

I think Lin is actually a better fantasy option than a real life option. If given starter minutes, he is a shoo in for 13pt/5ast/1.23pm/1stl.
post #23733 of 27247
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

right because if you're a good basketball player in real life you're a good fantasy player too. good logic

youre probably thinking of tristan thompson. so fucking amazing in real life and even better in fantasy. cleveland got him for song at $82 million over 5 years. i mean you cant tell me he isnt beast because the money. did you know he switched shooting hands a couple of years ago?!? he might be the only player in history to shoot free throws with both hands and still not make them. does that make him worse than shaq? i dont know because shaq only shot them with one hand.

5 year, 82 million for the 2 handed wonder who is making more as a backup than the starter. fuck i want to be friends with lebron and miss free throws with both hands. think of the $$$$$$$$
post #23734 of 27247
They offered him that much?? Lmao.

I can't blame Dan Gilbert for thinking that giving Lebron whatever he wants will make him stay with the Cavs long term. I mean, that strategy worked so well THE LAST GOD DAM TIME
post #23735 of 27247
bro, ive already done the math and its only going to add $.25 cents to the cost of the $8.95 hot dog, and $.41 cents to the $11 bud light. and because tickets are already $$$, now little timmy can only go to one game instead of 2 but we can explain to him his grades have been slipping and that if we wants to see king james and best friend play again he needs to start getting straight Bs or end up like his drunk uncle
post #23736 of 27247
Another way to look at it is, that's $50k per missed free throw. What a bargain!
post #23737 of 27247
I haven't been following things closely... lol he got that contract. But I thought everyone believes you have to overpay?

Lebron will be gone and that contract will still be there.
post #23738 of 27247
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Originally Posted by Akeem View Post

wait, this isn't true?

Not necessarily no. Fantasy uses traditional box statistics. A ton of players fill up counting stats but kill the offense and/or defense in real life. Like Enes Kanter is top 120 in fantasy value out 400 something and you don't want him out there long periods of time. There's a reason why people use more advanced statistics when evaluating players like how much a team is better or worse when you're on the floor.

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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Boris Diaw is a classic case. In Lin's, he's neither that good an NBA player or fantasy option.

sarcasm.gif. Now I remember why I had you on ignore. Back you go

Lin is probably top 5 best backup point guard right now. Darren Collison, Shaun Livingston, Lin, Isiah Thomas, DJ Augustin. I'd put Lin at 4 ahead of DJ Augustin.

I don't think you understand what good means. Like the guy at the end of the bench on the sixers used to be a college star. The most average player is probably Tim Hardaway Jr.



From what I understand TT's contract was about potential. Like nobody thought Lowry or Conley or Butler deserved max money. Idfnl thought even Kawhi didn't deserve max. He's probably one of the ten best players right now. Remember when most people including OKC didn't think a certain future MVP candidate deserved max which was like a relatively piddling $60 something million for five years? Cavs had no other option to replace TT, they want a championship, and TT at center allowed them to go small and make it pretty close in the finals. TT is one of the few guys who's really good at defending both dudes at the pick and roll. Also when the salary cap explodes TT's contract is very tradeable. It doesn't always pan out, but I could see TT someday becoming a star.

But besides all that the luxury tax hit on TT's contract I think totals $45million. And the sixers entire roster this year is only getting paid $35 million
Edited by indesertum - 10/22/15 at 5:25pm
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Are NBA contracts usually guaranteed? TT has the full $82M guaranteed. I know the NFL does not mirror that, for obvious reasons.
post #23740 of 27247
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Originally Posted by ellsbebc View Post

Are NBA contracts usually guaranteed? TT has the full $82M guaranteed. I know the NFL does not mirror that, for obvious reasons.

 

Yes. Almost all contracts are guaranteed, so even if the player is cut he will get paid (so most players tend to get traded instead of cut). There are a few exceptions to the guaranteed contracts though (Brendan Haywood is the first one that comes to mind, but his contract recently expired).

post #23741 of 27247
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Originally Posted by ballmouse View Post

Yes. Almost all contracts are guaranteed, so even if the player is cut he will get paid (so most players tend to get traded instead of cut). There are a few exceptions to the guaranteed contracts though (Brendan Haywood is the first one that comes to mind, but his contract recently expired).

Ah, yes. Explains the Ridnour trade marathon this offseason too. The Knicks are probably still paying Allan Houston too.
Edited by ellsbebc - 10/22/15 at 7:04pm
post #23742 of 27247
I suppose that a guy who's only 24 still has "potential", but this is a fifth year pro that has only one NBA starter level-skill, and has shown virtually no improvement over his 4 years in the league. That's the kind of guy who should get $20M more than Boogie Cousins, huh.

I'm happy because I don't like the Cavs. There's no way his contract doesn't come back to bite Comic Sans cockface in the ass
post #23743 of 27247
Chauncey Billups is the only guy I can think of off the top of my head that took that long to make something of himself, but he was never a guy anyone thought would make it by that time.....just got a crazy break with Terrell Brandon going down and then boom. Obviously there's no connection between that and TT. though.
post #23744 of 27247
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post


Lin is probably top 5 best backup point guard right now. Darren Collison, Shaun Livingston, Lin, Isiah Thomas, DJ Augustin. I'd put Lin at 4 ahead of DJ Augustin.

Brandon Jennings above all of those. Yes to Collison, Augustine and Thomas. Add CJ Watson, Beverly, Beno, even Vasquez and Hinrich is preferable to Lin for me.
post #23745 of 27247

Dougie McBuckets.

 

 

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