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Iggy still the most consistent player for the 4th game in a row
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Igloo is the Warriors MVP right now.
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Igloo is the Warriors MVP right now.

As you are a GSW fan, how thankful are you for David Lee tho
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@skitlets I am sharing your joy! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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As you are a GSW fan, how thankful are you for David Lee tho

David Lee with the redemption story. He's the highest paid player and sitting on the bench! But he gives Curry so much more room to operate. The D has to respect his roll to the rim, he passes well, and he finishes at the rim adequately. Not as good as a year or two ago, but definitely better than any of our other bigs.

Very doubtful he remains on the team next season, so we gotta get that ring for him.
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Wanting the lack of basketball quality that last year's finals had, this years finals is more personality and grit driven.

I have always bagged on Lebron, but last game and this one gave me that Michael Jordan moment where I just accepted how good he was and took it in. 2 plays in particular, one was a whip pass off a drive, I don't even remember if J Jones made it, but whoa. Nobody can do that today. The second was a drive to the basket where he took on the best of GS and made a simple layup after making an incredibly articulate drive look easy. He's so much better than everyone in this series it kinda makes the MVP conversation a joke.

I'd always felt Draymond was overrated, and David Lee was actually an important part of this team, this finals shows it. Lee is a really good player, and his benching was the biggest mistake Kerr made all season. Draymond is not as good as everyone considers him as being, all the Mich St deficiencies are there again. Give him a max, but you'll regret it. He never was a max guy, and it's clear in as much as Lebron is just destroying him. Not even a matchup. Livingston is better on James.

GS won pretty handily, and it shows that they will continue to win if the Cavs role players don't have big games. They looked fatigued save for James and Mosgov who carried the team tonight. It's likely the Cavs won't win another game, but it's not for the lack of effort these 2 guys have made. And T Thompson, can't ignore that offensive rebounding.
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I wouldn't say DLee's benching was a mistake. (And the team went 67-15 so many mistakes were there really?)

He lost his jumper last season and it's still MIA. He's a decent on-ball defender but is not good at help D, and he doesn't box out well. Just didn't fit the Warrior's game plan of being able to switch everything on D AND space the floor. He did neither.

But in this series, with Green slumping, his passing and finishing ability is opening up more space. Teams don't normally sell out so hard on Curry, and when they play him straight up, Lee is a liability even on offense. Just how the match up goes. 4on3, I definitely trust Lee to make the right decision.
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Offense was never the issue for the Dubs, so I agree benching Lee all season wasn't a mistake. Draymond burst into the scene this year. He's a gritty guy that brings energy to the team. Very versatile defensively and average offensively. Not a max player in my eyes but definitely will not say Lee is better. They were struggling offensively and Lee helps them spread the floor. He also moves much better than Bogut -- saw him sprint with the transition game multiple times for easy opportunities.

Draymond being exposed by LeBron does not negate his accompaniments. How many people in the league can play 1v1 with him?
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I really would love to hear the word on the streets of Cleveland right now… about LeBron's dick flash of course.
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dray told the press his mom and grandma told him he cries too much to the refs
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I love the dlee story developing in the series. How cool would it be to see dubs win in part because dlee played well. The guy is a pro, glad he is getting his shot
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Mozgov did turn into Hakeem this night as someone mentioned :P but LeBron scored 20 less than usual so it wasn't enough... shows how small margin of error this team has. Massive props to Cavs for making it a series. They are badly outgunned, but their effort is already legendary imo
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Draymond is not as good as everyone considers him as being, all the Mich St deficiencies are there again. Give him a max, but you'll regret it. He never was a max guy, and it's clear in as much as Lebron is just destroying him. Not even a matchup.

Wow we agree on something basketball related. He's an allnba defender and allows GSW to small ball, he is very valuable but it's like giving Josh Smith a max. Good complementary player but not 1st or 2nd option, not a max player. Mozgov is out playing him atm.
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Offense was never the issue for the Dubs, so I agree benching Lee all season wasn't a mistake. Draymond burst into the scene this year. He's a gritty guy that brings energy to the team. Very versatile defensively and average offensively. Not a max player in my eyes but definitely will not say Lee is better. They were struggling offensively and Lee helps them spread the floor. He also moves much better than Bogut -- saw him sprint with the transition game multiple times for easy opportunities.

Draymond being exposed by LeBron does not negate his accompaniments. How many people in the league can play 1v1 with him?

Kawhi Leonard
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Mozgov did turn into Hakeem this night as someone mentioned :P but LeBron scored 20 less than usual so it wasn't enough... shows how small margin of error this team has. Massive props to Cavs for making it a series. They are badly outgunned, but their effort is already legendary imo
Wow we agree on something basketball related. He's an allnba defender and allows GSW to small ball, he is very valuable but it's like giving Josh Smith a max. Good complementary player but not 1st or 2nd option, not a max player. Mozgov is out playing him atm.

Isn't Mosgov 6" taller?
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Originally Posted by ellsbebc View Post

Offense was never the issue for the Dubs, so I agree benching Lee all season wasn't a mistake.

Draymond being exposed by LeBron does not negate his accompaniments. How many people in the league can play 1v1 with him?

I'm saying that I think Lee should have been in the rotation. I didn't say he was better than Draymond, but they have different characteristics. Lee has always been a solid player, I just never liked him being cast off like that. Offense wasn't a problem for GSW until it was now. Kerr made the right move playing Lee, Bogut and Barnes have been GSW's worst players.

On the 2nd point, Draymond was supposed to be the guy that could cope with Lebron. He's been a mouthy, arrogant player all year, this was his moment to match the self-hype and he has not, it's not about whether he can play Lebron 1 on 1, it's about showing you're on par with the level K Leonard showed last year, which hasn't even been a conversation. He's still a good player, but not a great player, and not a max player.
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Favorite play from last night was Steph Curry shaking and baking Tristan Thompson and then sinking the 3.

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