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Hey, Larry. Where do the Knicks rank in prestigious franchises? foo.gif
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Thread Starter 
Who needs prestige when you're the mecca of bball?
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

if you look at the past nba champions, you'll see that there still seems to be a trend to have a select few teams that actually won championships.

tis basically the spurs, bulls, lakers, celtics with a some 3 time and two time champions sprinkled in. Mind you this spans even the modern era with a 30 team league.

wilt still lost to teams that may have actually not as been as talented as his too.... that 1973 finals loss (with Jerry West and that stacked lakers squad) to the Knicks must have stung.

If the warriors actually win it this year they vault into the 4x champion level.... granted their chips came back in the 40's, 50's and 70's.... but still its not like they don't have championship pedigree... hopefully they can sustain it and not be a once in a decade blazing comet that happened in their past championships...
yeah, it is pretty crazy how some teams are just constantly dominant in the nba. almost entirely a factor of how superstar-driven the league is. but nobody is touching what teams used to do back in the day, e.g. how many titles russell won.
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So this is the situation in the West for 2-6 spot:

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Nos. 2-6: OK, here's what you need to know.

If there's a tie involving the Spurs, Grizzlies, and Rockets, even if it involves the Clippers, the Spurs win the tie. The Southwest Division winner has to be settled first, and it's decided by head-to-head record between the three teams. San Antonio is 3-1 vs. Houston after Friday night's win and 2-2 vs. Memphis. Memphis is 2-2 vs. the Spurs and 2-2 vs. the Rockets. Memphis has one-on-one tiebreaker over the other two, the Spurs win the tiebreaker because they beat Houston one more time.

That's important moving forward.

The Grizzlies lost to the Clippers Saturday, and that had several consequences. Memphis can't finish with more wins than their competitors if they win out. If they manage to get by the Warriors (and Pacers) and win out, they can still wind up in fifth facing the Blazers thanks to the arcane tiebreaker rule if the Rockets also tie them. If the Spurs, Grizzlies, and Clippers tie, that stipulation doesn't apply and Memphis wins the tiebreaker. The Clippers-Grizzlies and Clippers-Spurs tiebreaker is immaterial in this situation because division winner automatically gets it.

If the Rockets don't tie, and Memphis and the Spurs tie, Memphis wins via tiebreaker.

Got it? Me neither.



The Spurs won Sunday, moving them a half-game up in the race and putting them in the two seed. Houston won, moving into a tie with Memphis, but Memphis holds tiebreaker, so they move into the 5-seed. The Clippers have a tiebreaker over Memphis for the moment thanks to conference record.

These aren't all the scenarios, but it does cover a significant chunk of the likely outcomes:

If Grizzlies, Rockets, Spurs, Clippers win out:

2. Spurs
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Grizzlies (home court)
6. Rockets
7. Mavs


If Grizzlies, Rockets, Spurs win out, Clippers lose one

2. Spurs
3. Grizzlies
4. Blazers
5. Rockets (home court)
6. Clippers


If Grizzlies, Clippers, Rockets win out, Spurs lose one

2. Grizzlies
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Rockets (home court)
6. Spurs

If Clippers, Spurs, Rockets win out, Grizzlies lose one

2. Spurs
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Rockets (home court)
6. Grizzlies

If Clippers, Spurs, win out, Rockets, Grizzlies lose one

2. Spurs
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Grizzlies (home court)
6. Rockets

If Clippers win out, Spurs, Grizzlies, Rockets drop one

2. Clippers
3. Spurs
4. Blazers
5. Grizzlies (home court)
6. Rockets

If Rockets win out, Grizzlies, Clippers, Spurs drop one

2. Rockets
3. Grizzlies
4. Blazers
5. Clippers (home court)
6. Spurs

The Blazers will not hold home court no matter what. The only team they can catch is the Rockets, and the only way the Rockets wind up in the fifth spot is if they finish with a better record. The Blazers are locked in the fourth seed and will not have home court.


No. 7: The Mavericks are locked into the 7th seed. They can't move up or down. They'll win whoever comes out of that bloodbath described above. They can start resting starters.




Then for the 8th seed:

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No. 8: The Thunder losing to the Pacers was not great for them. They lucked out when New Orleans lost as well, but the Pelicans still control their destiny. If they win out, they're in. They have a tougher road than Oklahoma City, but that hasn't meant anything since OKC is a defensive tire fire right now.

OKC remaining: Blazers, Wolves

New Orleans remaining: Wolves, Spurs

In their final two games, the Thunder face the woeful Wolves and the Blazers, who are locked into the fourth seed and will likely be resting players. The Pelicans, on the other hand, face the Wolves, and San Antonio, who will likely be playing for the 2-seed. Good luck with that.

The Pelicans likely will have to win both. That seems pretty tough, but then, we've counted them out before and here they are.
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Originally Posted by Neo_Version 7 View Post

Hey, Larry. Where do the Knicks rank in prestigious franchises? foo.gif
Last week, the Knicks defense set a franchise record, holding the Magic to only seven points in the 2nd quarter. That is better even than the Patrick Ewing/Charles Oakley Xavier Macdaniel/Anthony Mason lockdown days.
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Originally Posted by Brothersport View Post

yeah, it is pretty crazy how some teams are just constantly dominant in the nba. almost entirely a factor of how superstar-driven the league is. but nobody is touching what teams used to do back in the day, e.g. how many titles russell won.

Your assertion that it's a superstar driven league is debatable. It's clear star players make a difference in championship results, but it's only superstar driven from a marketing perspective.
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i would rather watch a baby rabbit choke on a carrot than watch the spurs win another championship, but damn. i still love watching them play. just don't win conference finals.
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

i would rather watch a baby rabbit choke on a carrot
Paging Dr. Freud!
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munching on tuna?
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New great white hope emerging, Dukie bound. Quick release, makes his own jumper on the dribble, reminds me of Curry a little with decisive clean moves. Needs some refinement, but he can play.

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Told you this kid is getting good.

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hahhaahahhahhahahaahahahaha knicks can't stop winning now. went from clear #1 in the lottery odds to potentially tied for 2nd.
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Klay has it going. Looks like Memphis dropping in the standings.
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today the 16-time champion lakers played players named Black, Blue, and Brown, none of whom were on the team 4 months ago.

byron scott played his starting guards 93 minutes. the only promising player on the team hurt his ankles twice tonight and sat a total of 49 seconds.

in minnesota the only hope of the franchise says his knees are chronically sore and he's "hurting all over" but flip played him 44 minutes tonight. they lost again, and have lost 11 in a row.
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Originally Posted by UnFacconable View Post

Klay has it going. Looks like Memphis dropping in the standings.

"going" is an understatement. Holy shit 37 in the 1st half! bounce2.gif
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