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post #21361 of 27206
highlight truthers are the greatest. paul was already way off-balance when he stepped on curry's foot, check the tape. that's cuz of curry's bamboozling.

bogut wasn't playing when the clips beat the warriors, iirc, i mean.

rough for the clips to expend all that energy and time last night and travel to portland on a back to back w/ no depth.
post #21362 of 27206
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Aldridge should be at least mentioned in the MVP race too, dude is just too good and too deadly with those mid range.
post #21363 of 27206
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post #21364 of 27206
He's amazing but I dunno about MVP. I think you could argue lillard has a greater impact on that team
post #21365 of 27206
There are times when I watch Aldridge and he goes into videogame mode. When he's hot, he's almost unguardable.
post #21366 of 27206
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I just meant mentioned at least, at be the 6th or 7th on the list, I think he deserves it. He just isn't even considered at all.

I guess I've just seen Lillard play like a turd on more than one occassion while I haven't seen Aldridge be that bad. Dude actually improved his rebound after the hand injury which he passed getting a surgery on to keep playing and give his team a chance. I just think he deserves a mention in there.
post #21367 of 27206
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I commend Doc for sticking with not taking Jordan out during the hacks but this is how they lost against Portland last time so with a 7-8 point lead, just take him out for the next 44seconds and just put him back.
post #21368 of 27206
so the mvp is probably gonna go to curry, huh? i feel a bit bad for paul, he's been insanely good this year.

then again, his dickgrab on kaman tonight will prob convince nfl gms they made the right move not letting michael sam into the league.

the dal-okc box score is totally insane. dallas scored 135 pts while only hitting 4 3s. okc lost w/ 3 30 pt scorers (kanter, russ, morrow), which is the 1st time that's happened since the blazers did it in a 4 OT loss in 1997.
post #21369 of 27206
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I think it might be Harden too just because some may see Curry having it easier while Harden has been pretty much by himself without Howard and now without Beverly. Curry definitely carries his team but to having Klay and Green huge leap in improvement along with a very good coach and playing less minutes, they may not give enough credit to him compared to Harden. Completely not Currys fault though. Curry should be a favorite but I can just see Harden nabbing it especially if the Rockets gets the second seed.



As for CP3, I've watched every Clipper game and I didn't even notice he was playing so well (as in one of his best ever), I knew he is still top PG and very good but thought he was just being a typical CP3.


I actually read this earlier about the MVP Race being a two-man race: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25130908/why-the-mvp-race-is-down-to-two-guys

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CHRIS PAUL IS OUT: I GOT NOTHIN'

As much as I love watching the above players, and feel strongly about defending how great they are this season, I feel passionately enough about their limitations in the race to write this article.

But Chris Paul? Chris Paul's a problem. Because I firmly believe this is a two-man race. But if you ask me why Chris Paul's not in it? I have a really difficult time telling you why.

Paul's already played in 74 games, more games than he's played in any season since being traded to the Clippers. He's averaging 19-10-5, shooting 48-39-89. He leads the league in assists and assist percentage, third in Win Shares and fourth in Value over Replacement Player. The Clippers have the No.1 offense per possession in the league (just recently nabbed it from the Warriors... by 0.1 points), and are a top-four team in the brutal Western Conference.

I've got no knocks on his play. He's played in games, he's played phenomenally well, he's been great defensively (79th percentile via Synergy Sports), he's a team leader, his team has won games despite a bench that makes me wonder if Doc Rivers is permanently stuck in 2009. Paul has been the most valuable player on his team, and is playing some of the best basketball of his career. (I'd put this season third all-time for him behind 2008 and 2009, his best season in six years.)

But... the other two have just been better. Their cases are just strong. They change the defense in more dramatic ways. They are harder to defend, make more of an impact, have had (in one of their case's) more success on a team level.

It's painful, but like all the rest of the guys above, if the other players didn't exist or weren't having the years they're having, Paul would be worthy of the MVP. His great just hasn't been great enough, by no fault of his own.
post #21370 of 27206
i think curry deserves it more. curry is more team independent. harden wouldn't be harden unless he had shooters around him (cuz he needs space to penetrate) whereas Curry can get his shot off whenever the hell he wants to, but the whole team is centered around getting the other players involved too. dude's FGP is literally the same whether or not there is a defender on him

curry also has the best on off split. team scores 17 more when curry is on court whereas rockets only score 6 more points when harden is on court (per 100 possessions). curry's team is better, but curry also has a bigger impact on his team than harden by a huge huge margin, harden uses the ball more, but curry is far more efficient and produces more
post #21371 of 27206
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Oh yeah I am not saying Harden deserves it more, I could just see voters going with him.

A month ago, Harden may have gotten my vote by a slight margin but if asked today, Curry gets it hands down.
post #21372 of 27206
ah i see what you're saying. yeah i feel like a lot of media members are going for harden cuz he puts up more impressive numbers (same thing with westbrook) but it's not like curry can't do that. he just doesn't need to
post #21373 of 27206
Westbrook has been the most impressive player all season. He could easily have had 20 triple doubles. Beyond stats, he's the most impressive athlete in the NBA right now and the most deserving. Harden doesn't deserve to be rewarded for his draw-a-foul style play. Curry, dunno, I have no argument other than he seems too young to reward with an MVP, clearly not logical but I think MVP awards should reward a culmination of work.
post #21374 of 27206
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Westbrook has been the most impressive player all season. He could easily have had 20 triple doubles. Beyond stats, he's the most impressive athlete in the NBA right now and the most deserving. Harden doesn't deserve to be rewarded for his draw-a-foul style play. Curry, dunno, I have no argument other than he seems too young to reward with an MVP, clearly not logical but I think MVP awards should reward a culmination of work.

Westbrook is a year younger than Curry and was drafted one year earlier. Seems like a wash on the "youth" factor.
post #21375 of 27206
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Westbrook is a year younger than Curry and was drafted one year earlier. Seems like a wash on the "youth" factor.

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