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Ibaka out indefinitely with knee soreness... but it's fantasy playoffs!
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Russy gonna Russ?
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Thread Starter 
Ibaka supposedly getting a procedure, might be surgery or just a "clean-up" and bets estimate from what I read is hopeful by post-season so yes Russ gon' make that final run for the MVP.
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this is true imo. ridiculous that nets cannot sell a large minority stake in a country where chipotle charges an extra $2 for guacamole.

 

Well, I think selling a minority stake in an NBA team is relatively easy.  It's just difficult to sell a minority stake in an NBA team at a valuation on the same level as the Clippers sale, which is what Prokhorov is trying to do, if I'm not mistaken.  It's no secret that the Nets are hemorrhaging money.  This isn't really too much of a problem if you're an oil tycoon, but if you want to invest in the team and you're not going to be given any say in how the team is run to try and dig the organization out of the red, then that's a problem.

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Well, I think selling a minority stake in an NBA team is relatively easy.  It's just difficult to sell a minority stake in an NBA team at a valuation on the same level as the Clippers sale, which is what Prokhorov is trying to do, if I'm not mistaken.  It's no secret that the Nets are hemorrhaging money.  This isn't really too much of a problem if you're an oil tycoon, but if you want to invest in the team and you're not going to be given any say in how the team is run to try and dig the organization out of the red, then that's a problem.

This thread seems deluded in the idea that wealthy people just throw money away. There was no interest in buying a stake because nobody is stupid enough to pay for the privilege of underwriting future losses of a badly managed team. I don't know how "isn't too much of a problem if you're an oil tycoon" gets translated into a good investment.
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This thread seems deluded in the idea that wealthy people just throw money away. There was no interest in buying a stake because nobody is stupid enough to pay for the privilege of underwriting future losses of a badly managed team. I don't know how "isn't too much of a problem if you're an oil tycoon" gets translated into a good investment.

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Wealthy people aren't buying a minority steak in a team just for the cachet. They want to make $$...or have a chance to buy the team in the near future.
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This thread seems deluded in the idea that wealthy people just throw money away. There was no interest in buying a stake because nobody is stupid enough to pay for the privilege of underwriting future losses of a badly managed team. I don't know how "isn't too much of a problem if you're an oil tycoon" gets translated into a good investment.

I'm not sure if you're deliberately being obtuse or just can't read.  The part in bold is basically what I fucking said.  Prokhorov isn't willing to give up a majority stake in the team and investors aren't willing to pay big money for a minority stake.

 

And it goes without saying that Prokhorov cared about winning more than how well the Nets were doing financially.  That's why he allowed Billy King to amass the largest luxury tax bill, like, ever.

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I'm not sure if you're deliberately being obtuse or just can't read.  The part in bold is basically what I fucking said.  Prokhorov isn't willing to give up a majority stake in the team and investors aren't willing to pay big money for a minority stake.

And it goes without saying that Prokhorov cared about winning more than how well the Nets were doing financially.  That's why he allowed Billy King to amass the largest luxury tax bill, like, ever.

"This isn't really too much of a problem if you're an oil tycoon" is what you said, and if this fictional oil tycoon had a say in the running of the team they'd be lining up at the door for a stake, I disagree.

I'm suggesting that there are more variables, mainly investors care more about valuation than a say in running the team. Most investors are shareholders in corporations, which they allow to be run with no say. Post Clippers, NBA valuations are overbought, so the risks are just too high, especially with a team losing money. If this were pre-Clippers, he'd have probably succeeded.

Regarding winning, Prokhorov did this thread's favorite thing: overpay the shit out of guys with little end product.
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"This isn't really too much of a problem if you're an oil tycoon" is what you said, and if this fictional oil tycoon had a say in the running of the team they'd be lining up at the door for a stake, I disagree.

Dude...the oil tycoon is MIKHAIL PROKHOROV.  I guess I should've said precious metals tycoon, but whatever.

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Dude...the oil tycoon is MIKHAIL PROKHOROV.  I guess I should've said precious metals tycoon, but whatever.

Yeah, he wasn't oil. Where's lawyerdad?
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This thread really needs a hot potato-passing or tar baby-passing smiley.
Edited by lawyerdad - 3/16/15 at 3:31pm
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it hurts my head and my soul that byron scott still has a head coaching job. someone thought he was one of the top 30 basketball coaches on earth! on earth!!

can't even use tanking as an excuse. you're the freaking lakers, you could have any young up and coming coach you want. get a brad stevens type and have him lose but at least get some experience.

lin's so sad in la he even stopped doing his hair 😩
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4/5 have been coach of the year bounce2.gif
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How much of this is on Mitch Kupchak's shoulder, though? That's just a putrid roster top to bottom, even with Kobe. He let Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol walk in free agency. I can understand D12 since they traded for his expiring deal, but he could've at least gotten some pieces back for Gasol...
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Partial blame only. He had four pivotal events and went 0-4. not much you can do when the guy absolutely refuses to commit/sign (Howard) or the league decides to sucker punch you (Chris Paul). Mislabeling Gasol as washed up and letting him walk was all on him, and I suppose he should have at least seen some warning signs that Steve Nash was breaking down. But those four events totally fucked the Lakers
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