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post #18091 of 27204
They're putting Tristan Thompson at the 5. He's undersized but he'll be ok I think with varejao and Haywood rotating in
post #18092 of 27204
^ is that for real? tristan thompson can't guard for being a 4, let alone a 5. that'd be a terrible idea. tristan thompson might be the most boring player in the nba. he's canadian to boot. there's one sole interesting fact about tristan thompson (he switched shooting hands midway through his nba career) and it didn't even matter at all.
post #18093 of 27204
well they played tristan at the 5 during the scrimmage, but it's still somewhat up in the air

he was actually good with blocks his first year but something about the system they used since then had him step farther away from the lane and he didnt step in as a help defender that much

he's also not too undersized. the heats got away with using udonis and joel anthony at the 5 even tho they're a lot smaller.

he's pretty mobile in his defense. i think he just needs some good coaching and an actual good system
post #18094 of 27204
he may be washed up after is latest injury, but Andy Varejao is the perfect 5 for the system I think the Cavs will implement. Thompson is a nice player off the bench but I don't know why you'd start him over Varejao as long as the latter is healthy.

the Cavs have a lot of interesting complementary pieces but this is what you get when you have some truly unbelievable luck with ping pong balls. it's actually a testament to their incompetence that all they were able to draft was Kyrie and "upside". I hate to play the hindsight game but even if they had gone with conventional wisdom, this team would have Nerlens Noel and either Harrison Barnes or Andre Drummond playing with Lebron, Love and Uncle Drew.

(I was tempted to cheat and put Dame Lillard up there but decided they would never have drafted him with Irving already rostered. they also coulda had a better Thompson if they drafted Klay over Tristan, but Klay needing to get paid this year would have likely screwed up the Cavs' pursuit of Lebron)
post #18095 of 27204
Varejaos defense has never been that great. He just gets a shit ton of rebounds which you already have Love for. You need a rim protector. Noels would have been awesome. He looked really good in the summer games
post #18096 of 27204
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

well they played tristan at the 5 during the scrimmage, but it's still somewhat up in the air

he was actually good with blocks his first year but something about the system they used since then had him step farther away from the lane and he didnt step in as a help defender that much

he's also not too undersized. the heats got away with using udonis and joel anthony at the 5 even tho they're a lot smaller.

he's pretty mobile in his defense. i think he just needs some good coaching and an actual good system
uhhh what are you talking about. tristan thompson is 6'8. haslem is also 6'8 and joel anthony is 6'9. plus they never had haslem play 5, they always used bosh there. they used haslem at the 4 and he still got abused a lot. joel anthony was really good at pick and roll defense, so he was passable.

i will say i haven't watched very much cavs so i can't make a solid judgment on thompson's defense. but i've literally never read a single thing, stats or analysis or scouting-wise, that's made me think anything of him more than being the most average player in the league, on offense and defense. you know he avg'd 0.4 blocks/g last year right?

0% chance tristan thompson spends more than 8 mpg at the 5 this season. :/
post #18097 of 27204
I thought he was 6' 10". Googling him it looks 4 different websites have him from 6' 8.5" to 6' 10".

here he is next to bennett who's 6' 8"



i thought haslem guarded the 5s while bosh stepped out?

well we'll see what happens
post #18098 of 27204
ah, basketball reference says 6'8.

i found him on the draft express pre-draft measurements, which are basically the holy grail, which say 6'7.5 barefoot, 6'8.75" in shoes.

i guess it depends what year of haslem you're talking about. he basically didn't play last year. and i don't think he played too much the year b4 that? but playing as the backup to 5 is, regardless, very different from tristan thompson potentially starting at the 5.

i read an article or two saying blatt said exactly what you're saying he said, that they're considering him at the 5. the authors were about as dubious as i am, so yup we'll see.
post #18099 of 27204
well i was dubious too, but it looked like they played him at the 5 in the cavs scrimmage with the starting lineup

isn't draft express for pre-draft? i was thinking maybe he grew two inches in the meanwhile



looked at volunteering as a basketball coach for local elementary schools and it looked like it was all full. they need help with volleyball and ultimate frisbee tho lol


random basketball thought: the sound of a swish when the ball goes in and hits nothing else is so pleasant. really addicted to that noise.
post #18100 of 27204
I would volunteer to coach a girls volleyball team.
post #18101 of 27204
elementary school kids?...


also @Brothersport. thompson started the 5 again against tel aviv but varejao looks really healthy.

news broke that the new TV deal is worth $24 billion almost 3 times what it is now

cap per team is supposed to be $88 million now.


suns are super super smart (they rushed for a deal with the morris twins and bledsoe and will now possibly have room for a max star maybe 2). OKC really fucked up. lebron is apparently not going to make a ton more money than he is now but he'll probably make a few million more per year. lance was smart declining to sign with pacers and signing instead with the hornets for a shorter deal (that is unless he really fucks up in the hornets). basically i think all the 2nd tier stars will win. there's going to be a rush for those guys
post #18102 of 27204
yea im just not believing it until i see it during the season and they're not hemorrhaging points. frontcourt of love and thompson offers literally 0 basket protection.

draftexpress is predraft but the vast majority of players don't grow any after they turn 19...like there's giannis and paul george, but i don't know of anyone else. fwiw draft express doesn't have anthony bennett's exact measurements, but they approximate him at 6'7.

the tv deal is really exciting, but it remains to be seen how the nba is going to spread out the cap increase. few people think that it's going to jump up to 88 right away, so the increase (and the actual #) are up in the air. regardless, it's a giant number.

indesertum, how do you think okc screwed up? just in general, or in a specific move they made (or didn't make) this offseason? i could see their general strategy as a big fuck-up, since a huge cap increase means tons more flexibility for every team, resulting in a lot more contender competition for them.
post #18103 of 27204
I'm (still) talking about harden. in hindsight it seems like okc could've had its cake and eaten it too. They could've kept harden at near max for 5 years, pay luxury tax for a few years until 2016 when presumably the rise in cap would've covered harden and kept them out of crazy repeater taxes

Also yeah I don't really think Thompson at the 5 is great. They'll rotate through Haywood varejao and Thompson but all three don't really offer great rim protection


I didnt realize David Blatt has won 16 championships in his 21 years of coaching in 7 different leagues and cups. That's a crazy record. How has nobody thought to hire him yet (or maybe I just didn't know about it)?
Edited by indesertum - 10/5/14 at 9:38pm
post #18104 of 27204
huge NBA TV contract. All of a sudden Melo's deal looks like a bargain.
post #18105 of 27204
The Thunder must be scared right now that KD is set to be a free agent when the new TV contracts kick in.
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