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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

i regret pretty much every argument i get into, but it turns i don't regret it so much that it prevents me from diving right back in

I think what we really want to know is if Delonte is also better than Parker...
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Delonte would be better if he played in pops system. Fact
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

Delonte would be better if he played in pops system. Fact

the players that have mental illness/ drug addictions/ect will only be really tolerated if they can perform at a high level despite so.

so guys like dennis roman, or ron artest will be tolerated if they are defensive or rebounding savants.

this isn't football, baseball, or hockey where there are a relative large amount of roster spots. the nba as a whole only has like 400 player population. there's too much risk to gamble on an iffy player if there is no upside that greatly outweighs it. NFL teams can take a chance on a chad johnson or pacman jones. Baseball teams can take a waiver on a manny ramirez or milton bradley if it doesn't work out the NFL, or MLB they just cut them.

I think hockey is probably the most strict with players, if a player has even a bad attitude/problem they'll trade or drop his ass on the spot and move on even if its a star player or large salary.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

its because he's so handsome. its like that seinfield episode where george has a plutonic crush on a male model.







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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

i think rockets are supposed to have a lin trade lined up with the sixers

but well played mark cuban well played. it works out great whether or not parsons actually signs with them.

ultimate troll move by Mark Cuban, I like it
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

the players that have mental illness/ drug addictions/ect will only be really tolerated if they can perform at a high level despite so.

so guys like dennis roman, or ron artest will be tolerated if they are defensive or rebounding savants.

this isn't football, baseball, or hockey where there are a relative large amount of roster spots. the nba as a whole only has like 400 player population. there's too much risk to gamble on an iffy player if there is no upside that greatly outweighs it. NFL teams can take a chance on a chad johnson or pacman jones. Baseball teams can take a waiver on a manny ramirez or milton bradley if it doesn't work out the NFL, or MLB they just cut them.

I think hockey is probably the most strict with players, if a player has even a bad attitude/problem they'll trade or drop his ass on the spot and move on even if its a star player or large salary.

Well the reason I turned captain save a ho is because I think delonte is a good player and doesn't actually have a big mental illness/irresponsibility problem but a big PR problem.
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Ok, the whole Houston Parsons-Bosh thingy is even more complicated than I had originally thought...According to Larry Coon...
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To keep Parsons' rights & still sign Bosh to max, they have to dump another $3,732,744 in guaranteed salary. That's Jones AND Motiejunas. So to get Bosh at max AND keep Parsons, Daryl Morey just needs to dump Asik, Lin, Jones AND Motiejunas with no salary coming the other way
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, good luck with getting rid of Lin, Jones, and Motiejunas in 3 days, and that's assuming Bosh decides to sign with Houston...

EDIT: So it looks like Houston's backup plan is targeting Trevor Ariza at $9 mil/year if they don't match Dallas' offer sheet for Parsons. Much more doable.
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lol Mark Cuban is such a dick. 

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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

lol Mark Cuban is such a dick smart competitor. 

Actually, I agree with you (based on very limited information, admittedly) that he's kind of a dick. But I don't really see this as evidence of that (that may not be what you mean either). Being a better poker player than the other guys at the table doesn't make you a dick, it just makes you a better poker player.
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Rumor is the Rockets closed their front office for the rest of the week to avoid getting Parsons' offer sheet from Dallas lol8[1].gif

The Knicks did the same thing when Jeremy Lin signed his offer sheet from Houston.
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Actually, I agree with you (based on very limited information, admittedly) that he's kind of a dick. But I don't really see this as evidence of that (that may not be what you mean either). Being a better poker player than the other guys at the table doesn't make you a dick, it just makes you a better poker player.

by saying dick I assume we both meant competitor, sometimes they mean more or less the same wink.gif
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

by saying dick I assume we both meant competitor, sometimes they mean more or less the same wink.gif

Ah, got it. That makes sense.
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frown.gif blazers get steve blake

i hope warriors have a card or two up their sleeves cuz they really need another ball handler
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The Decision has been made, even though it hasn’t been made public by the man himself. LeBron James is returning to the Cleveland Cavaliers, a league source tells SheridanHoops.com.

 

James met with Miami Heat president Pat Riley on Wednesday in Las Vegas to deliver the news, and Riley did his best to try to get James to reconsider, comparing the stability of the Heat organization to the relative instability of the Cavs, who have a meddling owner and have changed general managers and coaches several times in the past few years, according to a source who spoke on condition of anonymity.

 

The meeting lasted about an hour, and James and his advisors then met for dinner. James’ stance did not change, according to the source, but no public pronouncements were made. An official announcement will eventually be made on www.lebronjames.com, as I first reported Tuesday. The news should become official before James leaves Saturday for the World Cup final in Brazil.

 

For Cleveland, this is one of the most important events in the city’s sports history. No pro team has won a title of any kind since the Browns won the NFL Championship in 1964, and now there is a distinct possibility that the 50-year drought can end. James will be joining a team led by Kyrie Irving, who just agreed to a five-year contract extension, along with Andrew Wiggins, the No. 1 pick in last month’s draft.

 

It is a young core that will grow older with James as their tutor and leader, and he returns to Cleveland as a grown man who has learned what it takes to win. The Cavs prepared for the move by dumping Jarrett Jack, Tyler Zeller, Sergei Karasev along with a 2016 first-round draft pick to clear $23 million in salary cap room (they received nothing else in return) — the surest sign of all that they are expecting James to return.

 

For Miami, it’ll be the end of an era — a four-year period in which a superteam was constructed and went to four straight NBA Finals.

 

Why is this happening? It comes down to LeBron building a legacy, which leads us to three points:

  • There is nothing left for him to accomplish in Miami. He went there for four years, he went to the NBA Finals all four years, and he won two titles while learning what it takes to be a champion. Nobody can ever take that away from him.
  • A chance to return home as a successful, seasoned adult with a chance to deliver the city of Cleveland its first championship since 1964 is too much of a legacy opportunity for James to pass up.
  • And another thing: With all due respect to Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade, the best player he has a chance to team up with is named Kyrie Irving.

 

Once James makes his intentions known publicly (and the same goes for Carmelo Anthony, who reportedly will stay with the New York Knicks), the free agency dam is going to burst.

 

Greg Monroe, Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Luol Deng, Lance Stephenson. They are all going to lock up their deals in a very short span of time, and it is going to be madness.

 

We have been telling you for weeks that Cleveland is in the hunt for James. Some have dismissively scoffed at the notion. Others have surveyed the landscape, summoned their inner Spock and said: “Why not?”

 

James traveled Monday to Las Vegas, and a source who has been briefed on James’ free agency maneuverings told SheridanHoops that James’ inner circle, from his wife, Savannah to his agent, Rich Paul, to his best friends, Maverick Carter and Randy Mims, are unanimous in their belief that James’ best move is a return to the team he played for from 2003-2010.

Fans in Cleveland have been holding their collective breath, and now they can exhale. The chance for the city’s first championship in any major professional sport since 1964 is now a distinct possibility.

 

The Cavs were the only team able to offer James something no one else could: Redemption. Let us not forget that we have reached the four-year anniversary of “taking my talents,” Jim Gray, Cavs fans burning jerseys and Dan Gilbert wrongly predicting more championships for Cleveland than Miami in his infamous comic sans stream-of-consciousness Internet post — a post that was purged from the Cavs’ Web site overnight Sunday.

 

Rarely has the balance of power in the NBA hung in the balance quite the way it does now. It was a similar situation four years ago, and we all were witnesses to how much sway The Chosen One holds over our beloved Association. Now, it is a question of whether he can turn a young nucleus led by Irving and Wiggins into championship material.

 

The man who has been greasing the skids for this epic event is James’ agent, Rich Paul, who met with potential suitors in Cleveland during the first week of the NBA’s moratorium on signings and trades, which expires July 10. Much of Paul’s work has been taking place under the radar, although there have been clues, such as Mavericks owner Mark Cuban being spotted in northeast Ohio. The Lakers had a stealth meeting Friday, and the Rockets and Suns also spoke with Paul.

 

Meanwhile, on the Carmelo Anthony front, he has finished his tour of meeting with prospective teams and was told by the Knicks that they are indeed willing to make him a max, five-year offer. His decision could come at any time.

 

One piece of business that could speedup James decision is the Mavericks’ offer sheet to Chandler Parsons, which was tendered Thursday. The Rockets have the right to match the offer, but if they match it before Bosh makes his decision, they will not have the cap space to get Bosh.

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2014/07/10/sheridans-top-25-free-agents-july-10-edition-lebron-going-to-cleveland/

 

The rest of the dominoes will fall in short order.  Houston looks like they'll become the next superteam.

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