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post #16876 of 27206
Yeah, wasn't OKC problem that their bench was basically Derek Fisher?
post #16877 of 27206
yeah def not one guy. 1 or 2 good wing players that can provide an outlet and isn't a liability on defense. curious to see if jeremy lamb or perry jones can step it up this summer. cuz i highly doubt they can get good vets at minimum price.

their productive bench was reggie jackson, steven adams, perry jones, and jeremy lamb


perkins is just way too expensive for $9 million. i think the next next season steven adams should be able to take his spot
post #16878 of 27206
maybe i haven't been paying attention, but it really seems like this is the first off-season where the salary cap has become a predominant consideration in free agency. I mean, it was always there, but often ignored. This year it seems like teams are really trying to minimize their overage. i know the cap was lowered and the penalties increased. is this it? or is it a weird year with a lot of big-name (high-salary) players coming free? or both?
post #16879 of 27206
i feel like its both. when was the last big franchise player free agency hullabaloo? 2010?
post #16880 of 27206
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

yeah def not one guy. 1 or 2 good wing players that can provide an outlet and isn't a liability on defense. curious to see if jeremy lamb or perry jones can step it up this summer. cuz i highly doubt they can get good vets at minimum price.

their productive bench was reggie jackson, steven adams, perry jones, and jeremy lamb


perkins is just way too expensive for $9 million. i think the next next season steven adams should be able to take his spot

Can't hate Brooks for not playing Lamb though, every time that guy stepped on court Fisher looked like first team NBA in comparison(not a hate on Fish though he was still good defender in last season, just not a v.good one like in the past).

Obviously Jackson and Adams are keepers, not sold on jones and lamb yet.
post #16881 of 27206
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Originally Posted by foodguy View Post

maybe i haven't been paying attention, but it really seems like this is the first off-season where the salary cap has become a predominant consideration in free agency. I mean, it was always there, but often ignored. This year it seems like teams are really trying to minimize their overage. i know the cap was lowered and the penalties increased. is this it? or is it a weird year with a lot of big-name (high-salary) players coming free? or both?
I think it's mainly the fact that there are a bunch of franchise players potentially on the market. Also nobody knows how much money they exactly want, so that's why you keep hearing about how much money teams have.

This is also something that the NBA and owners specifically aimed for during the last CBA negotiation during the lockout. They wanted more player movement and structured contracts to spur more movement and (indirectly?) make it actually harder for small markets to keep their franchise players like Kevin Love.

So a bit of both. Last year I don't think you saw it as much, mainly because of available FAs, but maybe also because offseason interest in the league is constantly growing.
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Can't hate Brooks for not playing Lamb though, every time that guy stepped on court Fisher looked like first team NBA in comparison(not a hate on Fish though he was still good defender in last season, just not a v.good one like in the past).
It's so tough because everybody basically wants the SA method, where you play all these crappy young guys a lot during the season, even if they don't deserve it, and you get them experienced and confident to play a role in the playoffs. But then you figure you also want to win all the games you can and get home court advantage. The Spurs are the only team who can manage minutes that way and yet not sacrifice any wins. It's incredible.

Also Fisher wasn't even an average defender any time in the past few seasons.
post #16882 of 27206
Yeah fish was never a good defender at okc. He couldn't keep the opposing 1 or 2 in front of him. He did occasionally provide a scoring punch from the bench but few far between.

I agree tho that it's hard to keep a player on the floor that's consistently not performing well in hopes that he'll get better
post #16883 of 27206
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I think it's mainly the fact that there are a bunch of franchise players potentially on the market. Also nobody knows how much money they exactly want, so that's why you keep hearing about how much money teams have.
Like the Lakers making $100 million last year, AFTER paying $49 million in cap penalties? (buried here)
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Also Fisher wasn't even an average defender any time in the past few seasons.
Fish always had a reputation as a lousy defender, even in his prime. Of course, there aren't that many great defending PGs right now, but he was problematic.
post #16884 of 27206
IIRC this is going to be the first season when the repeater tax kicks in for teams paying the luxury tax
post #16885 of 27206
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Originally Posted by foodguy View Post

Like the Lakers making $100 million last year, AFTER paying $49 million in cap penalties? (buried here)
Oh I meant how much money under the cap or luxury tax. But that's crazy. I saw some tweets re: how frustrating is it gonna be hearing the owners talk about how franchises lost money by including that ridiculous BKN luxury tax penalty?
post #16886 of 27206
Livingston to GSW, now that's a good signing. Not sure what Nets will do when DWill misses 40 games next year.
post #16887 of 27206
for MLE Livingston would be a good signing anywhere smile.gif
post #16888 of 27206
If you're not rooting for Livingston, you are a heartless bastard.
post #16889 of 27206
lol
he did play good in playoffs though
post #16890 of 27206
I realize Jazz games don't get much national exposure, so maybe this is a bias thing, but what am I missing that the Cavs are offering Gordon Hayward reportedly $15 million a year?
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