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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

Disagree tbh.

I'm not saying that Ibaka isn't a great defender, but his skill is on defending the drives, not the Duncan postups.

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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post

Uh...I think if Ibaka doesn't get that shot no one does. Adams and Perkins are journeymen at best.

Ibaka gets blocks as the help defender not as the first guy. That's why generally brooks plays a 5 like Adams or Perkins with ibaka as the 4


I hope brooks gets fired and they hire somebody better.

Like mike brown peepwall[1].gif and I hear d'antonis available. And woodson.
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Although OKC deserves another shot, the team best suited to beat MIA won the series.

The news on Parker will be critical, without him there won't be much of a chance for SAS.

SA comes into the series with a better bench than last year. MIA will suffer a similar issue that OKC did, SA wore them down, and MIA is not getting bench production.
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diaw3.gif

La Liga in bball form
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Btw Diaw is a such a good player in the post, always taking advantage of mismatch, He scored 26pts today and everyone is talking about Duncan, poor Boris frown.gif
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Although OKC deserves another shot, the team best suited to beat MIA won the series.

The news on Parker will be critical, without him there won't be much of a chance for SAS.

SA comes into the series with a better bench than last year. MIA will suffer a similar issue that OKC did, SA wore them down, and MIA is not getting bench production.

Not necessarily. SAS are still better than MIA w/out him. Tony is elegant French frosting on the cake.
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All those great teams in the playoffs and the two teams I don't particularly care if they win a ring make it to the finals.
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MIA has yet to be tested seriously in the play-offs.  4-1 win for SAS. 

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Interesting and kinda eerie fact floating online:
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In 1984, the Celtics and Lakers did battle in that year’s NBA Finals. The Celtics were 62-20 during the regular season while the Lakers were 54-28. The NBA welcomed a new commissioner in David Stern, replacing Larry O’Brien on April 1, 1984. The Finals that season was also the last time the Finals used the 2-2-1-1-1 format before going to the 2-3-2 format in 1985.

In 2014, the Spurs and Heat will do battle in this year’s NBA Finals. The Spurs were 62-20 during the regular season and the Heat were 54-28. The NBA welcomed a new commissioner in Adam Silver on February 1, replacing David Stern. This Finals will be, for the first time since 1984, using the 2-2-1-1-1 format.
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4-2 Spurs
This year Spurs have been playing sharper and with more focus than Miami and also faced tougher rivals.
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I think it's a toss-up on who's going to win. I mean really, why would one want to bet against Miami?
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Originally Posted by kissmyjazz View Post

MIA has yet to be tested seriously in the play-offs.  4-1 win for SAS. 

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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

4-2 Spurs
This year Spurs have been playing sharper and with more focus than Miami and also faced tougher rivals.

What I find risible about these arguments is that they assume that the team that hasn't "been tested seriously" couldn't be tremendously better than their competition*. That's on top of it just being an intrinsically weak claim.

*I'm not saying the Heat are, FWIW.
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The fact SAS faced tougher rivals is only to Spurs credit in this context not to discredit Miami. Just saying they showed some great basketball this year. But you're maybe right, it is not the best argument one way or the other.

4-2 is a mix of my wishful thinking and gut feeling. It is just a feeling I have looking at the Heat. To me they look a bit more sloppy than last two years. I might be wrong though. They still play great basketball and again we will have superb finals with some great offensive plays on both sides.
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id like durant to put on 10-15lbs of muscle so that he could play that 4 position more effectively on Defense especially


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that was a very nice double foul

Anyway it's not only that Durant is skinny, he doesn't defend well either. So it's not only matter of him putting some muscle.

Besides he doesn't have to do that even if you want to go very small. You just have to play him with another 6'8 F like Leonard who can both shoot and defend some PFs. Or tweener like Kirilenko or Derrick Williams.

Alternatively go smaller but not very small. Keep Ibaka at 5 and play him with stretch 4 in the mold of Robert Horry/Donyell Marshall/Tolliver someone who can guard 4 and space the floor.
Edited by wojt - 6/1/14 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

Brooks couldn't have done much better this game, look at the boxscore. 4 guys and Derek Fisher SCORED in the game. Derek shouldn't be the 5th best offensive player on a team...

OKC is a very good team, they got close to beating Spurs, but their team is not balanced enough offensively IMO. No fault on Brooks here.
I don't blame Brooks overall for the Spurs series. But did you not read my post? If Perry Jones or Thabo are on Manu on that play, instead of freaking Fisher, no way Manu gets a wiiiiiiiiiiide open 3.
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

I actually give Brooks credit for finally trying something new - small ball a la Miami with a good shooter at center for most of the second half. it nearly worked too, if not for Duncan digging deep and bogarting Ibaka for three straight OT plays
I give Scott Brooks a lot of credit for trying new stuff. But too often it seemed like he was just trying stuff randomly, with no thought process behind he. I'll start Collison now...now he'll be a DNP. I'll go from starting Sefolosha to him being a DNP. I'll randomly adopt a 100% switching defense in Game 6, but not adjust whatsoever in-game when you could see all the huge effects it had on their defense and rebounding.
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

Like mike brown peepwall[1].gif and I hear d'antonis available. And woodson.
Mike Brown????? You gotta be kidding man. Mike Brown has shown pretty definitively over the last few years that even if he has a great basketball mind (almost definitely false on offense), he has no leadership skills whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

Anyway it's not only that Durant is skinny, he doesn't defend well either. So it's not only matter of him putting some muscle.
I think he should def gain some muscle, not as much for defensive purposes, but to assert himself better against smaller defenders (Tony Allen, Danny Green).

He is actually a really good defender, or at least was in the regular season. Not as much in the playoffs, and he was very poor this series. But that shouldn't define him overall.
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