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post #1576 of 27236
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
I think that Felton is overrated and neither Galinari or Randolph are that great. In return, they got one of the 10 best players in the league, a veteran point who can close if necessary (a huge problem they've been having), and, most importantly, THEY GOT RID OF EDDIE FUCKING CURRY.

actually this team is excellent - starting 5-wise. its just not capable defensively and depth wise.

my prediction? they end up upsetting a juggernaut like chicago or heat and make the east semifinals.
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Originally Posted by sexandcandy View Post
and your fantasy team to the finals!

But injuries are killing me, first Gordon and then Deron & Ridnour, Deron comes back and then Gay gets hurt.
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
I think that Felton is overrated and neither Galinari or Randolph are that great. In return, they got one of the 10 best players in the league, a veteran point who can close if necessary (a huge problem they've been having), and, most importantly, THEY GOT RID OF EDDIE FUCKING CURRY.

Actually, Billups will probably be bought out and then he'll return to Denver. That was his plan in NJ, I have a feeling it is the same plan in NY. He loves his hometown and would love to retire in the Nuggets uni if possible.
post #1579 of 27236
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The boys from Bean Town gots some style.
funny i thought they were the worst of the bunch besides duncan and ginobli but i must say it's quite refreshing to see all these dudes stylin for a change was getting rather tired of there steve harvey suits big 3 looking good think rose if my fav point in the nba
post #1580 of 27236
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
I think that Felton is overrated and neither Galinari or Randolph are that great. In return, they got one of the 10 best players in the league, a veteran point who can close if necessary (a huge problem they've been having), and, most importantly, THEY GOT RID OF EDDIE FUCKING CURRY.

I agree. This trade isn't about Felton or Billups; it's about NY having a shot at CP3 or DWill, and they have that shot now. Billups is fine in the interim.

So, this is the complete deal?

To Denver from NY:
Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, Knicks 2014 1st-round pick, GS Warriors (now Knicks) 2012 and 2013 2nd-round picks, $3 Million.

To NY from Denver:
Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter, Renaldo Balkman.

To Minn from NY:
Anthony Randolph, Eddy Curry.

To NY from Minn:
Corey Brewer, Minn 2nd-round pick.

I read in several places that Denver might then send Gallinari and Mozgov to NJ for draft picks, but now SI says that won't happen.

What is the NY starting line-up going to be?
Billups
Fields
Anthony
Stoudemire
Turiaf?
post #1581 of 27236
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post
racist. > just kidding

Oh thank gawd for LemonChiffon!
post #1582 of 27236
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post
Actually, Billups will probably be bought out and then he'll return to Denver. That was his plan in NJ, I have a feeling it is the same plan in NY. He loves his hometown and would love to retire in the Nuggets uni if possible.

Interesting. Looks like you might be right.

"If Denver point guard Chauncey Billups is dealt by the Feb. 24 trade deadline, his agent said Saturday that Billups would want to have his contract bought out by this summer, enabling him to become a free agent.

"I've been in constant contact with Masai (Ujiri, the Nuggets executive vice president of basketball operations) and made it clear that Chauncey's desire is to remain a Nugget for the rest of his playing career and thereafter," Billups' agent, Andy Miller, said by phone Saturday to FanHouse. "If any of these rumors were to come to fruition, Chauncey and I would definitely want to maintain our flexibility and explore our free agency as soon as possible.''

Billups, a Denver native and hometown hero, is making $13.5 million this season and is due to make $14.2 million next season. However, the Nuggets, or whichever team might trade for Billups, can buy out his contract five days after the conclusion of the team's season for $3.7 million.

A contract also could be bought out by March 1, which would enable a player to still appear in the playoffs for another team.

Miller was asked what type of leverage Billups could have with any new team if it's the team's decision on whether to buy him out.

"I would be shocked if any team would not execute on it if the starting point guard does not want to be with the team (and is seeking) free agency,'' Miller said. "(If Billups leaves Denver) by way of a trade, then he would want to immediately be able to control his own destiny.'' "
post #1583 of 27236
So NY is going to fork over 3.5mil in exchange for clearing cap space? That's not that bad of a deal after all. Its not like they don't have the money to waste.
post #1584 of 27236
Billups is going to play for the knicks. But the knicks aren't going to win shit unless they get some more talent on that roster.
post #1585 of 27236
yea id be surprised if billups seeks a buyout i know we werent playing him but what i don't like is dealing randolph in this deal just so the nuggets can save $$$, he couldve been a key player post-deal hurts to lose mozgov too and sad to see gallo go
post #1586 of 27236
i like melo's asg look, amare pretty good, heat guys look good, like horford's suit and sweater but shirt and tie ruin it
post #1587 of 27236
Hollinger RIPPED the Knicks and James Dolan. Love this:
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New York: D+ You can't evaluate this as you would a normal trade. This deal was made at gunpoint, and that colors the entire assessment. Anthony became the first player in memory to issue a trade demand and then list one team that he'd accept a trade to. And then somehow, the Knicks decided to start bidding against themselves and repeatedly agreed to up the ante in the final hours. New York could have had Anthony this summer while losing only Chandler (a restricted free agent they would have had to renounce). Their primary risk to that outcome was a "franchise tag" in the new collective bargaining agreement that would have allowed Denver to keep Anthony. But even then plenty of alternatives were available for the Knicks, as three better players -- Chris Paul, Deron Williams, and Dwight Howard -- all seemed anxious to get to the Big Apple via power plays of their own, and one of the three (or another marquee star) may have wriggled free regardless of what new restrictions the next CBA imposes. This isn't Indiana or Memphis, and this saga laid that reality bare. Even with a franchise tag rule, New York had so many advantages that it was only a matter of time before a second star showed up, especially given the salary cap space the Knicks had carved out. To get a player like Anthony in those circumstances, it was worth paying something above just Chandler to convert a likely outcome to a certainty. But in this case the premium New York paid was as follows, beyond Chandler: • Gallinari • Mozgov • Their 2014 first-round draft pick • Golden State's second-round picks in 2012 and 2013 (owned by the Knicks) • $6 million in cash ($3 million each to Minnesota and Denver) • Swallowing two dead-money years at the end of Balkman's contract • Trading Anthony Randolph for Corey Brewer • Trading Felton for Billups, making New York eight years older at the point guard spot with a player who makes nearly twice in salary next season. Remind again why they needed to commit to all eight of these additional considerations for a player they were likely to get anyway? The worst part, of course, is that this deal proves that no matter how many advantages New York gains from its magnetic appeal to potential free agents, owner James Dolan will screw them up. Leaning on the genius of Isiah Thomas -- because it worked out so well for the first time -- he fell hook, line and sinker for every bluff thrown his way by the Nuggets and Melo's people. (Yes, Melo's people participated -- Anthony needed to make sure he got a lucrative contract extension under the current salary rules before being traded.) New York still gets its Melo-Stoudemire nucleus, but now lacks the supporting pieces to do anything important with that core. And by extending Melo now, they agree to lock him up at such an expensive price that, in concert with Stoudemire's deal, it likely precludes making a run at Chris Paul, Deron Williams or Dwight Howard in 2012.
post #1588 of 27236
agree with hollinger, perhaps other than the billups/felton argument (billups is better now and will be better next year, felton should prob be a backup pg in the nba, billups will make the hof), however neither is part of long term future so no big deal either way
post #1589 of 27236
The real key here will be with the contract. If the could somehow get Melo to accept less than max they'll have a shot at someone else in 2012. They need to have Amare restructure as well but I doubt they could sell that either.
post #1590 of 27236
not to get all CE, but it seems to me dolan makes a pretty strong argument in FAVOR of inheritance taxes.
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