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post #15421 of 27206
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Barnes did not touch the ball, it was a foul but ball was out on Jackson and fouls can't be reviewed only who touched it last so it should have been Clips ball. It was straight robbery. I don't know how the refs could not see it, Barnes got all hand.
post #15422 of 27206
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Barnes did not touch the ball, it was a foul but ball was out on Jackson and fouls can't be reviewed only who touched it last so it should have been Clips ball. It was straight robbery. I don't know how the refs could not see it, Barnes got all hand.

So you're thinking a make up call? That was a strange time in the game to do it.

They could have made the make up call, but clearly should have reversed it on review.

In the wide open like that it was ridiculous to flaunt the rules.
post #15423 of 27206
I was being sarcastic hence my quotation marks. That call basically gifted OKC the win but Russ still could have fucked it up had he not been awarded the free throws in the first place. That three he attempted was terrible.
post #15424 of 27206
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So you're thinking a make up call? That was a strange time in the game to do it.

They could have made the make up call, but clearly should have reversed it on review.

In the wide open like that it was ridiculous to flaunt the rules.


Definitely seems like a make up call but that just wasn't right, that's not how the replay was made for and it happened all season long but on a playoff, just got to do it by the rules. An NBA apology tomorrow just destroyed the Clips chance at winning.

It was better the Clips lost because CP3 choked and did stupid decisions than the refs deciding the game.
post #15425 of 27206
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WoW. Clips just got robbed by the refs.

The out of bounds review was obviously out on Jackson.

And CP3s foul on Curry was more obvious than CP3s touch foul on Russy.

And they didn't even bother calling when CP3 was fouling Ibaka in the end, there was like 1-2 seconds left.


CP3s fault for not taking the foul though and always trying to get a 3 shot foul. Just take the ball and hold it and don't try to shoot a 3 when they are going to foul.

Don't want the clips to win at all, but if they called that foul on Russ, it definitely should have been a foul on Curry.
Makes me even more fucking pissed that they didn't call the actual foul on curry. Would have probably send the Clips packing.
and The clips got soo many fucking FT this game.
post #15426 of 27206
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The clips got soo many fucking FT this game.

What? Could have sworn Clips shot 20 free throws while Thunder attempted 36.
post #15427 of 27206
Well it's the same thing as the other game, isn't it? Blow a big lead and lose.

To be honest, that's one of the things I don't get about basketball. The rules seem to be set up to make it difficult for teams to close out games
post #15428 of 27206
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

this shit so crazy.

westbrook got robbed by durant for mvp.

this is the bad thing about replay; back b4 replay, you call that off barnes no question. now the person who got fouled gets screwed (e.g. paul in the GSW series). officials screwed that up spectacularly.

with that said, chris paul played so badly in the last minute. earlier that game he was actually defended super well by perkins (!!!!!!! caused 3 TOs and a missed shot), then he SOMEHOW lets westbrook steal it, then he fouls westbrook. I think that was a foul on paul, and also should have been called against curry last round.

reggie jackson is the one who fucked it all up for the officials. somehow he didn't pass the ball on a THREE-ON-ONE.
post #15429 of 27206
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What? Could have sworn Clips shot 20 free throws while Thunder attempted 36.

Yeah, my bad, I meant the Thunder. The ref were definitely calling for home court advantage.
post #15430 of 27206
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Barnes did not touch the ball, it was a foul but ball was out on Jackson and fouls can't be reviewed only who touched it last so it should have been Clips ball. It was straight robbery. I don't know how the refs could not see it, Barnes got all hand.

How is it robbery if there was a foul?

It's ok for the refs to make a mistake on a foul, but not ok for them to make it on an out-of-bounds call?

Sure, the rules might not allow them to go back for it, but isn't it better that the right call is made in the end?
post #15431 of 27206
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How is it robbery if there was a foul?

It's ok for the refs to make a mistake on a foul, but not ok for them to make it on an out-of-bounds call?

Sure, the rules might not allow them to go back for it, but isn't it better that the right call is made in the end?


The replay is for out of bounds play only, not the foul. The refs can't make it up by giving the ball to the other team. Those are the rules. Now if they called the foul, then fine but that replay was clearly out on Jackson so the Clips deserved the ball.

Same thing happened in Golden State but with a different result, CP3 was fouled but they ruled it out of bound on him and Warriors ball. They replayed and saw CP3 was fouled but they couldn't do anything so they still awarded the ball to the Dubs and the NBA made a statement the next day that is was a foul.

Again no one is arguing the foul on Barnes, and it is exactly why Barnes didn't touch the ball he got all wrist, it's a missed foul-call but on a replay (made of out of bounds plays) that was clear and obvious and it is the main reason there is a replay for out of bounds, they can't make that mistake. Refs has taken 5-10 minutes on some replays to determine whose ball it is, this one is very clear. Barnes swatted down and the ball continued to travel forward because Jacksons hand was moving forward. The replays purpose to not miss "out of bounds" calls not "foul" calls. Simple as that.

It's just following the rules, fouls aren't replayable but the out of bounds was and I really have no idea how the refs could miss that other than making up for the missed foul.
post #15432 of 27206
Right call was not made at the end!

It was a giveback call for missing the foul call.

IMO that is absolutely wrong. The idea that the refs know they blew a foul call but can make it up by calling an out of bounds play wrong is a horrible policy.

The NBA will never admit what the refs did was wrong but they should have some talks.

I mean they will issue an apology but no one, with NBA, will admit that they knowingly blew the out of bounds call to make up for the blown foul call.

It is galling for LAC fans when the tape is so obvious.

Did LAC deserve this win? IMO, NO. But I think they were knowingly robbed.
Edited by rnoldh - 5/14/14 at 12:09am
post #15433 of 27206
Stu Jackson, former head of officiating, tweeted that it was the right call because of this rule:

Rule 8 Section II - c of the NBA rulebook states:

If a player has his hand in contact with the ball and an opponent hits the hand causing the ball to go out-of-bounds, the team whose player had his hand on the ball will retain possession.
post #15434 of 27206
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Originally Posted by Brothersport View Post

Stu Jackson, former head of officiating, tweeted that it was the right call because of this rule:

Rule 8 Section II - c of the NBA rulebook states:

If a player has his hand in contact with the ball and an opponent hits the hand causing the ball to go out-of-bounds, the team whose player had his hand on the ball will retain possession.


That wasn't the reason the refs gave to the coaches though, they said that in the replay they saw (which we all saw) that Jackson didn't touch the ball which sounds like a cop out.


Its funny, in the press conference and Durant saying "we had to work so hard at all the adversities they faced tonight".
post #15435 of 27206
You can call it the wrong call within the letter off the law, but you can't call it robbery. That doesn't make sense if you admit that there was a foul there.
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The replay is for out of bounds play only, not the foul. The refs can't make it up by giving the ball to the other team. Those are the rules. Now if they called the foul, then fine but that replay was clearly out on Jackson so the Clips deserved the ball.

Yes, I understand that.

But how is it robbery if there was a foul? It's not robbery at all. It's just the right outcome being made for the wrong reasons.
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That wasn't the reason the refs gave to the coaches though, they said that in the replay they saw (which we all saw) that Jackson didn't touch the ball which sounds like a cop out.

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What does it matter what reason they give if the team whose ball it should be gets the possession?
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