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To be fair, The Spurs were up and Pop probably told Parker to dribble around to burn time. A possession or two before that, Ginobili iso'd and took a contested 3 and missed so Pop likely told Parker to handle the rock. Also keep in mind, they had the lead of about 7 or so points with about 1-2 minutes left. At that point, no one in the Spurs can really hold the ball outside of Manu but Manu was clearly struggling last night.

Parker has been a great finisher this year, he had a handful of clutch jumpers and lay-ups this year alone. He has been breaking people off the dribble and managed to almost perfect the quick stop J.
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What do you guys think about Dennis Rodman's comment that LeBron would only be "average" if he played in the 90's?

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Dennis Rodman says LeBron James would be "average" if he played in the 1990s, and insists James' Miami Heat would be no match for his old Chicago Bulls team.

 

 

"It's really not a comparison. If LeBron was playing in the late '80s and early '90s, he would be just an average player," Rodman said Friday on "The Dan Patrick Show." "To do what Michael has done ... what he did was more charisma, there was more articulating and stuff like that. LeBron is more like ... there's no flash to his game. He's a great player, don't get me wrong, he's a hell of player, I'll give him that. But to me Scottie (Pippen) and Michael are probably the two best one-two punches I've ever seen."

 

Rodman, who won three NBA titles with Jordan's Bulls from 1996-98, said a 28-year-old Jordan would average at least 40 points a game in today's NBA.

 

 

"I'm just sick and tired of people comparing (James) to Michael Jordan," Rodman said. "It's a whole different era, man."

 

 

Rodman said Jordan thrived despite playing in a more physical era in the NBA.

 

 

"LeBron came into the age of the game at a perfect time. Michael came into the game when back then you could hit people, knock him down, shoot a free throw and get back up," Rodman said. "And LeBron can't do that. All they do today is (complain) about a foul. All they do is (complain)."

 

 

James, who has been to the NBA Finals in each of his three seasons in Miami, won his first title last season. The Heat lost Game 1 of the Finals to the San Antonio Spurs on Thursday.

 

 

Rodman believes his best Bulls team would easily defeat James' Heat.

 

 

"It would be no contest. The Heat has better talent than we had, but we had smarter players," Rodman said. "That's the only thing we had, smarter players. ... I would take Bosh out of his damn game easy. That's not even a problem. And how would Dwyane Wade match up with Scottie Pippen? Really? And Scottie Pippen would guard LeBron easy. And how are you going to cover those two guys (Jordan and Pippen)?"

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/9353089/dennis-rodman-says-lebron-james-average-played-90s

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He's right about the 90's Bulls being able to handle the Heat.
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Plus one no question
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

He's right about the 90's Bulls being able to handle the Heat.

I think I probably agree. Pippen could handle Lebron, Rodman would handle Bosh, Jordan would shut down Wade. No more big 3.
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Seems to me old players always diss present players.

Kinda sad really. Classless even if true.

But if you google classless Rodman's face will pop up on the first page.
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Bulls would rout the Heat, but not because they can stop Lebron. They can slow Lebron's scoring, but he'd still be a wrecking ball elsewhere. If this were Wade of even last year, he would still get his vs MJ but Wade's stressing at this point- he'd get eaten alive right now. Let's not even talk about Bosh, he'd be a complete nonfactor unless he suddenly gets hot from 20 out.
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All of these era comparisons are sort of silly because teams (and players) are developed around beating the teams of their era. The Heat are built around the specific model of play right now. The Bulls were built around the model from the 90s. Different kinds of players dominated, different rules, different culture. The players grew up under different environments, and not just the 24/7 media culture. The role models are different, the competition is different. Transplant 12 year old Lebron back to 1980 and he grows up to be a different player than he is today.

Also the salary cap rules and such are different, so there's that.
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It would be very interesting to see how they would contain LeBron-too big and too strong, especially against a team with no beef. I would put Rodman on him the entire series. Rodman, IMHO, would defend LBJ better than any player in the last 25 years.

He is still an idiot, though. He made similar comments about Larry Bird in the 80's, backed up by his idiot captain, Isiah
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All of these era comparisons are sort of silly because teams (and players) are developed around beating the teams of their era. The Heat are built around the specific model of play right now. The Bulls were built around the model from the 90s. Different kinds of players dominated, different rules, different culture. The players grew up under different environments, and not just the 24/7 media culture. The role models are different, the competition is different. Transplant 12 year old Lebron back to 1980 and he grows up to be a different player than he is today.

Also the salary cap rules and such are different, so there's that.

plus well... the 2011 Lebron and Lebronetts were easily beaten by Dirk and the mavs.
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It would be very interesting to see how they would contain LeBron-too big and too strong, especially against a team with no beef. I would put Rodman on him the entire series. Rodman, IMHO, would defend LBJ better than any player in the last 25 years.

He is still an idiot, though. He made similar comments about Larry Bird in the 80's, backed up by his idiot captain, Isiah

Rodman guarding Lebron on the perimeter? You would pull one of the best rebounders ever away from his strength? And you would then do what exactly with Pippen?

Rodman may be a dumbell but he's right, he'd eat Bosh up. Bosh is one soft player.

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plus well... the 2011 Lebron and Lebronetts were easily beaten by Dirk and the mavs.

This. We're still talking about a team that has won 1 championship.
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I would alternate pippen and Jordan on wade. Who cares about bosh. If he's going to play 18-20 feet out put who you want on him. Just gotta make sure to keep him off the glass.

Rodman has checked magic, bird and even Olajuwon . Motor is nonstop and he gets under your skin. I'd challenge everyone else to make up for his lost boards, a fair trade since he's doing the heavy lifting
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It would be very interesting to see how they would contain LeBron-too big and too strong, especially against a team with no beef. I would put Rodman on him the entire series. Rodman, IMHO, would defend LBJ better than any player in the last 25 years.

He is still an idiot, though. He made similar comments about Larry Bird in the 80's, backed up by his idiot captain, Isiah


Top 5 PG of all time. Fact!
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No doubt-never once questioned his ability, toughness, etc. off the court, the idiot tag has been hung on him on more than several occasions
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Top 5 PG of all time. Fact!

which brings in the fact that isiah was iced out of the 1992 dream team all the more cold. even chuck daily was coaching - yikes!
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