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post #9706 of 18358
I didn't say he cared...
I'm just saying there's been a lot of talk since Kobe dropped #30k about greatest Lakers, greatest players, etc. and I don't see how Kareem hasn't been talked about more.
I'm young and didn't get to see him play so maybe I'm missing something but looking at his stats they're pretty amazing. I realize he was on some pretty great teams and played for a long time but he dominated the game at every level, revolutionized it even.
post #9707 of 18358
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Originally Posted by Left Hand View Post

I didn't say he cared...
I'm just saying there's been a lot of talk since Kobe dropped #30k about greatest Lakers, greatest players, etc. and I don't see how Kareem hasn't been talked about more.
I'm young and didn't get to see him play so maybe I'm missing something but looking at his stats they're pretty amazing. I realize he was on some pretty great teams and played for a long time but he dominated the game at every level, revolutionized it even.

I did watch him play a lot as a kid. He was supremely efficient and competent. His defense was never given enough credit either. The best player you can compare him to today is Tim Duncan.

Today you need publicists and agents and players who get out there and self promote for attention. Kareem doesn't do that so to an extent his contributions get left behind.

For example, ask a group of young kids that don't know much about bball who is better, Blake Griffin or Tim Duncan? The kids will say Griffin because of show and flash. Reality is Duncan by miles.
post #9708 of 18358
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Originally Posted by Left Hand View Post

I didn't say he cared...
I'm just saying there's been a lot of talk since Kobe dropped #30k about greatest Lakers, greatest players, etc. and I don't see how Kareem hasn't been talked about more.
I'm young and didn't get to see him play so maybe I'm missing something but looking at his stats they're pretty amazing. I realize he was on some pretty great teams and played for a long time but he dominated the game at every level, revolutionized it even.

There's always a bias in analysis towards modern players.
post #9709 of 18358
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Kareem is just a guy that goes about his business. I don't believe he really cares about that kind of notoriety.

before he actually got his statue outside staples center:


Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 'Slighted' By Lakers Without Statue At Staples Center
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"I don't understand (it). It's either an oversight or they're taking me for granted. I'm not going to try to read people's minds, but it doesn't make me happy. It's definitely a slight. I feel slighted."

In a subsequent statement passed along by his business manager, Abdul-Jabbar said: "I am highly offended by the total lack of acknowledgement of my contribution to Laker success. I guess being the lynchpin for five world championships is not considered significant enough in terms of being part of Laker history."
post #9710 of 18358
Lol
post #9711 of 18358
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

before he actually got his statue outside staples center:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 'Slighted' By Lakers Without Statue At Staples Center

Interesting, didn't know he said that.

To a degree its his own fault for not doing more to cement his legacy, but that's also a sad commentary on society.
post #9712 of 18358
Jabbar was pretty much the best player in the 1970's before NBA became as big as it is now. Gotta be considered the best college player ever, NCAA banned dunking to give other teams a chance. Incredible longevity. Weird personality, standoffish and quiet, but probably pursued show-business to greater effect than any other top baller except for arguably Jordan (MJ's TV commercials probably had more cultural impact than Jabbar's movie appearances).
post #9713 of 18358
In addition, Jabbar didn't go broke like most ex athletes do.
post #9714 of 18358
speaking of old/new players, I would love Blake Griffin to try and do his facials (uhoh.gif) on one of those old school frontlines like Laimbeer/Mahorn or McHale/Parish. He would get away with it once.
post #9715 of 18358
Nah he'd pretty much posterize them repeatedly like kobe.
post #9716 of 18358
80's rules, Laimbeer and Mahorn would kill him. Like literally break his neck or something. Today's rules, those two guys wouldn't be in the league anyway because they wouldn't be able to play that game
post #9717 of 18358
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

speaking of old/new players, I would love Blake Griffin to try and do his facials (uhoh.gif) on one of those old school frontlines like Laimbeer/Mahorn or McHale/Parish. He would get away with it once.

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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

80's rules, Laimbeer and Mahorn would kill him. Like literally break his neck or something. Today's rules, those two guys wouldn't be in the league anyway because they wouldn't be able to play that game

^pretty much. but then again you had guys like shawn kemp who posterized the shit out of people and even taunted during the ballyhooed early 90's tougher defenses.

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Nah he'd pretty much posterize them repeatedly like kobe.

kobe would've been smart and just adjusted and took more jumpshots, slash carefully to get fouled and get to the line. if anything it looks like kobe really studies the old school stuff and adapts what worked then to his game now.
post #9718 of 18358
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

80's rules, Laimbeer and Mahorn would kill him. Like literally break his neck or something. Today's rules, those two guys wouldn't be in the league anyway because they wouldn't be able to play that game


Definitely. Remember Mailman on Thomas?


post #9719 of 18358
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

^pretty much. but then again you had guys like shawn kemp who posterized the shit out of people and even taunted during the ballyhooed early 90's tougher defenses.kobe would've been smart and just adjusted and took more jumpshots, slash carefully to get fouled and get to the line. if anything it looks like kobe really studies the old school stuff and adapts what worked then to his game now.

Shawn (manchild) Kemp was awesome and the proto-type beast, though his rapid decline, once it started, made me a little sad. Griffin, though would not make the old-school defensive players back down the way a flying refrigerator like Kemp did.
post #9720 of 18358
Ha ha, now that we're here... Wade dunks him and walks over him.


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