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Remind me what he did in LA? The elbow to Hardens head?
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Sorry, I wasn't clear, I meant the IND - DET brawl, not LA.
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Sorry, I wasn't clear, I meant the IND - DET brawl, not LA.

While that brawl was a new low (and no one mentions fans throwing shit at him), he is a guy that has never gotten a coach fired, you never hear teammates talk bad about him and his coaches all say that he is a good guy. Compared to Dwightmare, who tries to sell a clean, lovable image but got his coach and GM fired, yells at teammates and actually wanted the Lakers to get rid of one of the top 5 players to ever and still play the game just because of his ego. MWP is a guy I would not want to play against but would love on my team. Hard nosed, energetic, defense minded.

I don't condone the fight with fans but when you are the game, people think they have immunity and can say whatever curse they want to the players, talk about their wives etc. Imagine Noah going to the place of business of that blonde (alleged husband killer ) broad and sticking two middle fingers right in her face and calling her a whore. How long before police arrive to arrest him?
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I'm hoping Artest makes his way to the Knicks.
I also think that the Howard in Houston thing has a 50/50 chance of working out well or going to shit. Harden is a ball dominator, he does get more assists than I would expect but he requires the ball in his hands on almost every possession and he decides when to distribute or when to go to the rim/take a 3. If Howard actually had the balls/stupidity to expect the Lakers to amnesty Kobe and have the Lakers be his team, what is he expecting in Houston? I have to believe that he expects to be the number 1 option and the number 1 shot taker. he could very well be the 3rd option in that offense after Harden and Parsons, as the Rockettes are a run and gun team. How is he going to handle that? And if the Rockets change their game to accommodate him, what does that do to Chandler and Harden? I would not be surprised to see Houston in the same situation that the Lakers were in this year. Howard could very well retard the growth of all that young talent Houston has.
i've heard from a friend who is close to the lakers that the big frustration with howard was that he has the skill sets to be a great p&r big man, but that he refuses to think of himself that way and insists that he's going to be the next kareem/hakeem. which, of course, explains his sky-high TO count.
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I think everyone is over that whole fiasco. O'neal and Jackson were all involved too and are all in the clear now, granted Artest wasn't the biggest part of that brawl but it wasn't 100% his fault and again, people are over it. Dude did not choke his coach like Sprewell did, or Kobe and Denver. Someone threw a cup at him and Artest overreacted, it wasn't some crap he did for some shits and giggles.
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

Thats actually a much bigger signing than the media/league will think it is. MWP is not washed up and he brings a lot in intangibles to the game that no one else on the Knicks really has and he solidifies an already solid bench.
+1000
with all the drama on the lakes this year, mwp's season kind of got overshadowed, but he had a really good year. he's still a terrific on-ball defender, though not quite as quick as he used to be (amazing hands, though). his shot was pretty solid most of the year and he actually was moving well, after several years when he ran like a bear on roller skates.
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

I think everyone is over that whole fiasco. O'neal and Jackson were all involved too and are all in the clear now, granted Artest wasn't the biggest part of that brawl but it wasn't 100% his fault and again, people are over it. Dude did not choke his coach like Sprewell did, or Kobe and Denver. Someone threw a cup at him and Artest overreacted, it wasn't some crap he did for some shits and giggles.
continuing my mwp love-fest (i really will miss the guy): the brawl was almost 10 years ago. and you've got to give mwp props -- he eventually realized he had a problem and got help for it. he's seriously wacky ... don't know if he's actually crazy or just wired different ... but he's a guy who TRIES to do the right thing, even if he short-circuits once in a while.
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

This has become an Artest love fest suddenly. That the guy is a major dickhead so if he was picked up by a team he didn't want to play for he's shit that locker room up.

I think that explains it better than anything else. Sure, lots of teams have 2m to spend on him but they were all smart enough to stay away.

You really don't know shit about basketball do you?
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continuing my mwp love-fest (i really will miss the guy): the brawl was almost 10 years ago. and you've got to give mwp props -- he eventually realized he had a problem and got help for it. he's seriously wacky ... don't know if he's actually crazy or just wired different ... but he's a guy who TRIES to do the right thing, even if he short-circuits once in a while.

He really does try to be a good man, dude auctioned off his championship ring for charity for gods sake.


Plus the Lakers likely wouldn't win that one chip w/o him.
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In Game 5 of the 2010 Western Conference Finals, Artest hit a game-winning shot at the buzzer after grabbing a last second offensive rebound. He scored 25 points against the Phoenix Suns in Game 6 and went to the NBA Finals for the first time in his career. In the finals, the Lakers defeated the Boston Celtics, four games to three. Artest scored 20 points in the clincher and sank the team's last field goal – a three-pointer late in the fourth quarter – to virtually seal the victory. Afterwards, Lakers head coach Phil Jackson called Artest the most valuable player of Game 7 against the Celtics.
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Plus the Lakers likely wouldn't win that one chip w/o him.
i was at that game 5. one of the most exciting bball games i've seen in person (and i covered ncstate/houston in the final4)
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

You really don't know shit about basketball do you?

Yawn

Edit: I suppose I should give a substantive response even though NorCal is being a dumbass.

MWP is not a guy I'd ever bring in as a GM or coach.

I wouldn't want guys with a history. I wouldn't want JR Smith, Sprewell, D Howard, Kenyon Martin, S Jackson, Rodman, even Rasheed who I actually like. I've had opportunities to personally hire guys that have shown me a glimpse of risk and I pass. I'm risk averse in general. I believe that with this kind of $ at stake you're supposed to keep it clean. Like K Garnett, he gets shit here, but has the guy ever caused a public problem? No. He's a model pro, and the kind of guy I'm willing to pay.

Some may be great players or even all stars, but I wouldn't want to invest salary and that much risk in a ticking time bomb. Let someone else take the risk, I'll keep paying guys like Duncan.

Lastly, since homophobe NorCal triggered the thought, anyone else notice that Jason Collins has not gotten a deal?
Edited by idfnl - 7/15/13 at 5:54pm
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:-)
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Miller amnestied by the Heat.
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Farewell Mike, we'll always have 2012 Finals Game 5
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