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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Lakers doesn't really do picks.

And getting Kaman pretty much says they want Pau as a PF for most of the game.

Maybe (though showtime lakers were mostly drafted). I was thinking Lakers want to have enough cap space next summer for two max contracts plus a discounted Kobe. Could be hanging onto his contract for another year, gives them the most cap room.
post #12632 of 17711
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Lakers planning to amnesty MWP, he could be a good addition to almost any team for a mil or two. Clips should put up a bid for him.

Guess that kills the speculation that they were going to amnesty Kobe then resign him once he recovers.
post #12633 of 17711
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Guess that kills the speculation that they were going to amnesty Kobe then resign him once he recovers.

Can the Lakers resign Kobe if they amnesty him? I thought there was a provision in the CBA that prevented that since you're essentially circumventing the salary cap by doing that.
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Can the Lakers resign Kobe if they amnesty him? I thought there was a provision in the CBA that prevented that since you're essentially circumventing the salary cap by doing that.



From what I know, if a team amnesties a player, they cannot bid on him in the following auction. However, if no teams bid on him, that player becomes a free agent. At that point, I think the original team can resign the player, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

 

In the case of Kobe, it wouldn't even matter. This wouldn't work because it is impossible that no team bids even the smallest amount on him. Even if he makes it public that he won't play for any team other than the Lakers and so no team should bid on him, some team will make a bid just so the Lakers can't resign him.

post #12635 of 17711
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Dirk, he isn't hurt this off-season so we'll see. He'd still be first rounder if he actually plays 100% to start the season, Calderon also helps his value a bit. I mean really, I am not sure how you can put Love 5th and Dirk as 2nd roudner when Love only played 18 games last season and missed plenty a season before that too.

I wouldn't take Dirk with the 12th pick, no way. He was good but not 1st round value. Would definitely take Love at 12 if available.


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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

Im not overpaying for an injured player who suffered a critical injury (e.g. knee, ankle). However I am more optimistic about Love because of his age and relatively "minor" injury (hand). Having had all 6 months to rest an injury that otherwise requires 2-3 months to heal, I feel good with him at number 5. Rose will be a late first rounder and whoever picks him will probably enjoy a great season. He needs to show me that he is a 3-7 guy again.

I'd definitely take Rose if he was there at 5. I'd probably take him over Westbrook, but that's a close one.

Top 3 looks like LJ, Durant and Harden.

Also, some consideration has to be given to the tanking that will go on this season. This Wiggins kid is getting more press than anyone in recent memory.


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Originally Posted by thinman View Post

Neither Kaman nor Dwight fit D'Antoni's system, but if Kaman makes it onto the court at all, he'll give the Lakers more than Dwight did. Also, there's only room for one diva in that locker room and Kobe inherited the job as soon as Shaq left, so losing Dwight is addition by subtraction. If Kobe can be convinced that D'Antoni isn't a good fit, I predict D'Antoni won't last the whole season in LA and then Kaman can become that 12/10/2 guy he was before and the Lakers can contend.

It's really D'Antoni who isn't a good fit for the Lakers' personnel, but I think Kobe's influence is keeping D'Antoni in the job. (You'd think that Mitch Kupchak might talk with D'Antoni, or Kobe, before he signs a player, to make sure the player can fit the system. It seems that nobody in the Lakers' front office is talking to each other.)


Man, when the Lake starts losing this season I would not want to be around Kobe in that locker room. The dude is abrasive when winning, just imagine.
post #12636 of 17711
My first rounders are Durant, James, CP3, Harden, Irving, Love, Curry, George. Will add Westbrook if he's ready by opening day. You might make a case for Melo and i wouldnt fight you too hard. Sneaky picks would be Batum, Ibaka and (roll the dice) Derrick Rose.

I would pick Kobe in round 1 without hesitating if he's suiting up opening night. Sadly that doesn't seem possible, so I'd stay away until round 3, and not draft at all if I was playing roto
post #12637 of 17711
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So OKC loses Martin ayways, the key piece in the Harden trade last year?

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The Minnesota Timberwolves are on the verge of adding Kevin Martin and Corey Brewer in separate transactions that they have been pursuing since free agency began, according to sources close to the process.

To complete the long-anticipated signing of Martin to a four-year deal in the $30 million range, sources say that Minnesota will be acquiring the wing player via sign-and-trade from the Oklahoma City Thunder.

The deal will at least create a trade exception for the Thunder -- along with draft considerations -- after they failed to hang onto Martin, the most accomplished player Oklahoma City acquired in last October's controversial James Harden trade.

The Timberwolves, sources say, have also lined up a trade that will send veteran guard Luke Ridnour and his $4.3 million expiring contract to Milwaukee to create the needed salary-cap space to sign Brewer to a three-year deal in the $15 million range.
post #12638 of 17711
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

So OKC loses Martin ayways, the key piece in the Harden trade last year?
yeah, but it looks like the lakers are going to sign jordan farmar! puzzled.gif
actually, he might make it work in d'antoni's offense.
but (essentially) trading MWP for Chris Kaman? I like the old lunatic better!
post #12639 of 17711
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Agreed but I think MWP will/should only be let go if it frees up something to get someone huge. MWP is getting old but he is still an asset to the team I think. No point in using the amnesty on him unless he opens up the door for someone significant.

Lakers reliving the championship days now, first Vujacic and now Farmar. Whose next, Madsen?
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Lakers reliving the championship days now, first Vujacic and now Farmar. Whose next, Madsen?
don't laugh, actually he's a coach in the organization.
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If Sheed can be an assistant coach, I am no longer surprised about anything anymore
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

If Sheed can be an assistant coach, I am no longer surprised about anything anymore

I'd actually love to see him scream "ball don't lie" in a suit from the sidelines.
post #12643 of 17711
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

I'd actually love to see him scream "ball don't lie" in a suit with headband from the sidelines.
post #12644 of 17711
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Originally Posted by foodguy View Post

don't laugh, actually he's a coach in the organization.

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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

If Sheed can be an assistant coach, I am no longer surprised about anything anymore

Yeah, but Madsen actually makes sense as a coach. A smart, determined, hard-working guy who got farther than his athletic ability otherwise would have carried him because he accepted that there was a limited role in which he could contribute and worked hard to do the best he could in that role.

And man, was he a beast in college. As a Cal guy, I hated but respected his game. He was relentless.
I still remember one post-game interview where the interviewer pointed out that he had blood on his jersey and asked whether it was his or somebody else's. Madsen looked down at his jersey, shrugged, and said something like, "I'm not really sure. Sometimes it's my blood, sometimes it's the other guy's blood. I don't worry about it, it's just part of the game."
post #12645 of 17711
Thread Starter 
Cavs sign Bynum for 2year, $24.5mil.

Good risk if he actually plays, second year is a team option so I guess they can't lose much.
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