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post #12601 of 18411
hmm...so no new super teams it looks like. Warriors, Rockets and Peccalins get indubitably stronger but nothing that makes you go damn.

well, the Warriors
post #12602 of 18411
Thread Starter 
CBA really makes it real difficult to have a super team now but one could still emerge, these guys are just giving out verbal contracts, signings doesn't start til July 10 and we still have a very long off-season.
post #12603 of 18411
I changed my mind, I'm ready to call the Warriors a super team. at least what passes for one post-CBA. top 3 in the West with the Spurs and Thunder. Rockets round out the top 4? maybe if they get 80% of Orlando Dwight and not 100% of LA Dwight.

they would have an excellent starting 5 plus a great bench but they couldn't keep Jack and Landry. so they take a hit there.
post #12604 of 18411
I would not call Dubs a super team. I hate that meme anyway. The whole "big three" concept as well. Warriors are what several teams are, a team on the rise that made a nice signing. Their top 6 is hot fire, and they have a nice 7 man rotation as it stands. It will be interesting to see who else they can add, hopefully a big body for the middle. Maybe Chris Kannan?

Much as I do love the anyone being able to call them a "super team" with a straight face. Sure beats the last twenty years or so of meh.
post #12605 of 18411
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

CBA really makes it real difficult to have a super team now but one could still emerge, these guys are just giving out verbal contracts, signings doesn't start til July 10 and we still have a very long off-season.

Ya, you really need the draft and a couple of kids that come out productive right away. In a way, this is good. Keeps teams like LA and NY from just extending thru spend.


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Are you kidding me? None of those things are true.
LA will suck for a year then get Kobe back with a grip of cap space. If they are smart they will work out a wy to release then resign Kobe next year giving them stupid cap room starting now. LA is still LA and that means a lot to many players. As long as Short Bus sits down and shuts the fuck up they should be fine.

Dallas has a good owner, lots of money a good coach and a good GM. Hard to see how they can't rebuild on the quick.

OKC did not "let" Harden go, they could not have afforded the contrct he was going to demand. They could have gone all in last year, and maybe they should have but they got what they thought they could for him while the getting was good. Personally Harden for a few unprotected 1st round picks might have been better then KM but whatever.

As for GSW, they just cut serious bait and added a very good player who fits their team and style of play. More depth, with Iggy being a super sub like Manu at his best or Barnes coming of the bench for a much stronger rotation. He also makes Jack expendable and can handle the ball, letting Curry play off the ball.


I might be wrong in my assessments, but you're offering very little up in defense of your points.

LA get Kobe back at 97 years old. They'll have cap room, but it will be a 1 star team. Kobe won't solve anything long term. The team should really do what the C's have just done, but they are too attached to him. I understand why, but its bad business. Kobe and Gasol should go.

Dallas has good bones, but Dirk is the same story as the prev paragraph: hanging on to an aging star.

IMO, both Dirk and Kobe + both teams should go separate ways, both players could easily help many teams a lot.

Nobody really knows the truth behind the Harden deal, but I believe they made a mistake IF they had a realistic chance to keep him.

I agree GSW added a solid piece, but so have other teams out west. They had a chance to crack that top 3 or 4, but IMO have not now. Curry off the ball will be a new dimension, and will work.
post #12606 of 18411
Curry did play off the ball with Jack in the game, and it pissed me off because Jack doesn't have great court vision. Hoping Iguodala can fulfill the role of secondary ball handler, but his TO rate is pretty high as well.
post #12607 of 18411
I only saw one GS game last year, asking seriously, is this team different from the Run -TMC days? That team was always good and always gave other teams scares in the playoffs but at the end of the day they never really did anything. This GS team seems like a guard heavy team in terms of how they play and I don't understand trying to move Lee but again, I saw them once.
post #12608 of 18411
I think they will be special offensively,average defensively. Bogut and Iggy are great, Barnes will probably get there, and Curry and Lee will always be horrible defensively. But they will be a great rebounding team with Bogut, Lee, Iguodala and even Klay
post #12609 of 18411
I just thought that a team like that needs a Lee badly but it sounds like they want to move him, I guess if its for a rebounding/defensive big, it make sense but if its for backup guards/forwards, I am not sure what they are thinking. Anyway, I don't see much of them so they are probably better defensively/rebounding then I am thinking.

I want to go on record as saying that barring injury to Gasol/Nash/Kobe (or if the eventual D`Antoni implosion comes sooner then expected), the Lakers will win more games this year then they did last year. Surprised they did not sign Copeland from the Knicks, as he is tailor made for D`Antoni. They just have to go out and find a semi decent combo guard/forward and they'll be fine. I prefer Gasol in the middle to Howard anyway on that team.

And by the way, if you are out West, have some cash, why wouldn't you take a 1-2 year chance on Bynum. It doesn't sound like people are breaking down his door to get him, if you could get him under 10mil a year, I'd probably risk it for a year or two. Worse case you are out $10mil and there are much worse players than Bynum getting that money. Like if I was Detroit and I just got Smith and I have a young center that needs more time, get Bynum in there, if he works out, you have a trade chip in him or Drummond to get some guard help. If he doesn;t work out, you are out 10mil but so what, there is no other player out there right now available that is going to make a big difference to a team like Detroit
post #12610 of 18411

This dude Bynum wants a deal before he's willing to work out with a team, though

 

All a team is getting is medical reports

 

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/07/01/andrew-bynum-wont-work-out-for-teams-who-want-to-sign-him/

 

dude is just trolling at this point

post #12611 of 18411
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Originally Posted by AceBoogie View Post

This dude Bynum wants a deal before he's willing to work out with a team, though

All a team is getting is medical reports

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/07/01/andrew-bynum-wont-work-out-for-teams-who-want-to-sign-him/

dude is just trolling at this point

oh, ok. Was not aware he was living on Fantasy Island
post #12612 of 18411
Thread Starter 
Good steal by the Clips.
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The Clippers have their backup, and Darren Collison is going home. Collison has reportedly agreed to a two-year deal with the Los Angeles Clippers for just $1.9 million, a portion of the mid-level exception.
post #12613 of 18411
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Good steal by the Clips.

Agree. He was shitty last year. A change of scenery may help.
post #12614 of 18411
Collison had his breakout season playing behind Paul in NO. I think its a great signing by LAC

Bynum is whack. The man has so little leverage and he's loosing what little of it he has left.
post #12615 of 18411
Thread Starter 
Colisson had so much potential before but he has fallen off badly. I think he is a better option than Beldsoe though, less athletic but has better court vision and range.


Not sure this is the right move by the Lakeshow, is Kaman any better than Dwigth in DAntonis system?
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The Los Angeles Lakers have agreed to terms with free agent center Chris Kaman on a one-year deal, according to sources with knowledge of the deal.
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