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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post


You're dead wrong on this. You're not considering vectors. A guy may make contact but he's spent a lot of energy elevating. In addition, unless you go strait up on D now, its usually a foul. In addition, most NFL contact is shoulder led, a more 'pointed' surface than a whole body smacking into another (chest to chest), the more surface area, the more the force is spread.

There are few opportunities in the NBA to even approach the ferocity of the direct contact in the NFL. I honestly get scared for those guys when I see them on Hard Knocks. Its a vicious sport. There was an excellent article in Esquire, I think it was last month, that speaks about the problem the NFL has. The player is bigger and stronger than the forces that the body being struck can tolerate.

 

It was measured on a box out, no jumping. It would probably be a foul in game, but that doesn't mean it never happens. Big men get beat up in the post, being blindsided by an unexpected screen hurts, and taking charges suck.

 

That said, yeah, I can't argue the NBA is more dangerous than the NFL. I find most injuries occur with contact to the head, knee, or when the player is blindsided - stuff that doesn't usually happen in basketball. The contact force I think is there, especially if you account for pads, but it's not not nearly as often or targeting vulnerable areas.

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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

You're saying that the Bulls would be the favorites over the Heat because of the style of ball they play. They played the same style two years ago, and lost. Obviously the Heat can win over that type of play. The Heat are a better team this year, the Bulls are worse. I can't see any reason not to say that the Heat would be the favorite over anybody (except maybe the Spurs), other than simply not liking the Heat.

well, they've lost to both the Pacers and Knicks, two teams that are much better this year they have been in the last few years and both teams represent very difficult matchups for the Heat. With Rose back, I don't think this is a worse Bulls team then from two years ago. In terms of the Heat, I don't think that this is as strong a playoff team as they have been. yeah, I know they just won 27 in a row but lets see how they do in the playoffs.
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^^

Jesus H.

Were they menstrating?

Anyway, enough of all this internet trash talking. Playoffs start in two weeks and everything that happens before then is pretty much irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

i think the worse collision I've ever seen was in baseball:

johnny damon damin jackson collision - warning... this is very very bad:

That is bad. Its one thing to expect the hit, but another to have no idea its coming.
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one of the best 30 for 30's i've watched:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9105242
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Ed you're nuts if you think the Bulls stand ANY chance vs. the Heat. The Knicks or the Pacers either. The Heat are going to sweep through the Eastern Conference on their way to a repeat title.

Sadly.
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post

Ed you're nuts if you think the Bulls stand ANY chance vs. the Heat. The Knicks or the Pacers either. The Heat are going to sweep through the Eastern Conference on their way to a repeat title.

Sadly.

Not in their current state. But, with Rose and Noah? Yes. They do.

By the way, this Jimmy Butler kid is special. He's one of 4 to watch out for: Butler, Harkless, John Henson and Harrison Barnes.

And Reggie Evans is joy. I miss Ben Wallace, but he's a decent poor man's.
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Doubt Rose is coming back this season. 

It will take him a while to get used to things again after being out so long so even if he does show up for the playoffs, he's not going to be of much help

 

I think it's going to be OKC vs Heat with Heat winning again

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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Not in their current state. But, with Rose and Noah? Yes. They do.

By the way, this Jimmy Butler kid is special. He's one of 4 to watch out for: Butler, Harkless, John Henson and Harrison Barnes.

And Reggie Evans is joy. I miss Ben Wallace, but he's a decent poor man's.

Nah. Even with Rose, I don't think they have what it takes to stop those three. At least this year's iteration. Don't know about next year's team. D-Rose is playing it smart here. Season's forefit.
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post

Ed you're nuts if you think the Bulls stand ANY chance vs. the Heat. The Knicks or the Pacers either. The Heat are going to sweep through the Eastern Conference on their way to a repeat title.

Sadly.


You guys must be watching a different Heat team than I have been against Indiana and New York.
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

You guys must be watching a different Heat team than I have been against Indiana and New York.

Both losses to the Knicks and Pacers came before the all-star break, where the Heat were obviously mailing it in. In the games since, they wrecked both teams. Either Ind or NY would take a game, two TOPS. But neither have what it takes to shut them down, barring any injuries.
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As a Sixers fan I may be biased but all this Heat not winning the EC talk is leaving me incredulous. If it were 5-game series I could see maybe a Knicks upset but in seven games with LeBron and Wade?
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and ... Birdman

yes, ... Birdman

just fell into their lap to address one of their major areas of concern. Dude is still learning the playbook, they're just scratching the surface...

Anyway, major BREAKING NEWS : NEW MIAMI HEAT STREAK AT 1-0
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Lebron don't even care

pulling up with 3's
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