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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Lebron's closest old-school equivalent is Oscar Robertson. but the comparison is loose at best. Lebron and Rondo are probably the two players i can think of that are impossible to draw a historical precedent for

Per the Kemp comparison, I was just speaking about athleticism, I mean 6'10" and be able to move like that, they are pretty close to each other. As a whole package, Lebron is on a world of his own and the crazy thing is he is still getting better. I am just sure how he is mentally, he looks tough and determined but dude still has choking tendencies, he still isn't on that MJ/Kobe I will kill you to get to the basket and win mentality.

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Edited by RFX45 - 2/19/13 at 7:09pm
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^lol

great kemp vid thanks rfx, used to enjoy watching him, xavier, nate etc was sad to see the sonics go
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james worthy> blake griffin

i seriously think worthy would be doing the same posterizing dunks in todays game. but the other way around? blake would be put on his back and then start shying away from dunking so hard - save his energy and dunk more efficiently - and work on his defense.
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worthy was far better but that's an odd comparison
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dirk/ewing? both 7 foot off guards
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fuckin love worthy
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Doesn't seem fair to compare possibly one of the best SFs (easily top 10 SF?) to a still rising PF that we have yet to see the ceiling and more of a bang in the paint type of player, right now it is too obvious Worthy is better than Griffin.
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dirk/ewing? both 7 foot off guards


That is a tough comparison too, there really no one earth like Dirk (though if Durant were to grow a bit more, and he might, then he could make a case) but he can be a defensive liability. wing on the other hand is a hard nose defender and having Oakley next to him certainly helped. Ewing does have that mid range game and even a little fade away and for a center dude could move. I distinctly remember he had a bit of a crossover too but he isn't touching Dirks range and ability to score outside the paint.

Ewing was great but I probably wouldn't rank him as the best center of the 90's, I'd give that honor to Hakeem.
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robert parish> any present day center (duncan is really a power foward).

Parish's weakness was his shit passing game (and his love of the weed). I think Marc Gasol is the best passing center in the league right now.

Garnett > Parish

Passing skills of centers: Sabonis > Walton > Olajuwon > Vlade > Gasol. Sabonis was the best passing center ever. Not going to mention guys outside my time.

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james worthy> blake griffin

Barkley > Griffin
Malone > Griffin
Kemp > Griffin


Kemp in his prime was a beast. He's a better comparison to Lebron than Blake is. The best comparison to Lebron? I think its actually Hakeem because they are both mold breakers. Note, Hakeem was only about 6-10, Lebron is 6-8, similar builds.

Olojuwan > Lebron

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dirk/ewing? both 7 foot off guards

Mullin and Duncan are probably the best comparsions

Dirk > Ewing
Dirk > Mullin
Dirk = Duncan

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Dikembe > Hibbert

Richmond > D Wade

Durant > Dr J
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http://www.nba.com/history/50greatest.html

even the voters agree.

man, just goes to show you how shitty most centers are
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man, just goes to show you how shitty most centers are

its just scary sad how so few two way centers you have in recent times. even the likes of Jack Sikma would dominate in todays game. its gotten to the point where the NBA has to import big men from international leagues that have two way games.

sikma was a center I hated because he was more individually skilled than parish, but just didn't have the ups/speed to match up. during the 80's the Milwaukee bucks won the 3rd most games in the league right behind the lakers/celtics.

last nights game between celtics/nuggets did have some old school type players: kenneth faried and Javale McGee (the reason the celtics lost). despite how athletic those two are, they have really old school type of skill sets. KG still plays like a 7 foot guard on offense (his only low post move is the shake then turn around jumper) his defense is fucking spectacular still though.


the celtics will be coming of a back to back (yesterday was a hard fought/tough loss to the nuggets in altitude) to face the lakers tonight at the staples center. the lakers are 7pt favorites and hopefully will be playing passion/emotion with Buss dying. it might be a Lakers blowout win under the circumstances.
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Parish's weakness was his shit passing game (and his love of the weed). I think Marc Gasol is the best passing center in the league right now.

Garnett > Parish

Passing skills of centers: Sabonis > Walton > Olajuwon > Vlade > Gasol. Sabonis was the best passing center ever. Not going to mention guys outside my time.
Barkley > Griffin
Malone > Griffin
Kemp > Griffin


Kemp in his prime was a beast. He's a better comparison to Lebron than Blake is. The best comparison to Lebron? I think its actually Hakeem because they are both mold breakers. Note, Hakeem was only about 6-10, Lebron is 6-8, similar builds.

Olojuwan > Lebron
Mullin and Duncan are probably the best comparsions

Dirk > Ewing
Dirk > Mullin
Dirk = Duncan

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Dikembe > Hibbert

Richmond > D Wade

Durant > Dr J


Seriously?

Dirk is a marshmallow who's really more of a #2

Oscar Robertson>Magic>Rest of the World
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Say what you want about JJ's albatross of a contract, but he's earning his money this season.  Oh, and of course, this tweet...

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ok, i lol'ed at the tweet
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Seriously?

Dirk is a marshmallow who's really more of a #2

Oscar Robertson>Magic>Rest of the World

Right, and Duncan is not?

Dirks greatest strength is that high release and being able to shoot over almost anyone. Duncan's are his post moves. Both are deadly.

I didn't see OR play in context, but having trouble believing he was the best ever.
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