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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Honestly Bosh should. Or do something to grow a pair of balls. Mofo had one rebound last night

I don't watch the Heat alot, other than when they play the Knicks, but has he been moving his game further away from the basket or is it my imagination?
post #10367 of 18035
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He is forced to to make room for LBJ and Wade driving and more often than not, he is a recipient of a kick out since he can shoot the mid-range.

I still think they need a Rodman type of player that just hustles to get rebounds and can stand int he paint and just be a hindrance like Reggie Evans or a big body that is a bit more defensive minded like Perkins.
post #10368 of 18035
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Honestly Bosh should. Or do something to grow a pair of balls. Mofo had one rebound last night

You know who else get the suck award this season? Jason Terry:

Last night: 2 assists and 1 steal.

That's it. No points, nothing. Just 2 assists and 1 steal.

I dropped him from fantasy just in time but I had to eat that stinker before the add/drop took effect today.
post #10369 of 18035
The answer is yes to both Ed's question and RFX's question. Which may excuse him not getting offensive rebounds (but not completely in my book), but there's no excuse for him not rebounding defensively or even blocking out
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

The answer is yes to both Ed's question and RFX's question. Which may excuse him not getting offensive rebounds (but not completely in my book), but there's no excuse for him not rebounding defensively or even blocking out

he's not a rebounder. never really was. always a 20 and 8 guy, but those 8 would come off of long range rebounds combined with his being 7ft tall. he's never crashed the boards. think Dirk, not Dwight.
post #10371 of 18035
But Dirk averages 10 rebounds or so. Ryan Anderson is also a prototypical stretch-4 but no one questions his ability to rebound. It's one of those skills that's mostly effort...and Bosh doesn't have it. Comparison to me is more like Brook Lopez - great skills, good physical gifts, but a total bum in giving the right effort
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If I had ever made it to the NBA, the one thing that would have kept me in the league would have been rebounding. Its the only thing that I can say without any internet bragging that I consistently did better than 99% of the people I played against. Big guys think they just need to stand there and their height will get them the ball, little guys like running out to get a break going. I got in the paint, used my big ass to pin people behind me (nohomo) and got many boards. Never needed to (nor could I), get above the rim. Something as simple as judging where a ball is going to rebound to seems like chinese algebra to players. If you are at least 6'5"/200lb in the NBA and you really want to rebound and you work at it and study shooters and whether they typically miss long or short, you can be a very good rebounder.
post #10373 of 18035
Just look at Chuck Barkley. Always undersized but had a career average over 11 a game.

Dunno if its a true story or not but I heard D Rodman studied the shit out of shooters for miss tendencies. That guy averaged 18 per game one season at 6' 8".

No question Bosh should bring it. He's another Amare. Dirk doesn't even jump for his rebounds anymore and still gets them.

You got any height on you Ed? I've always prided my defense. I was more a Bruce Bowen than a Rodman, so I was always stuck on the perimeter because of matchups.

With age, I've worked hard not be one of those hackers that can't move like they used to and bulldoze the shit out of you. My strongest attribute was always passing, another reason I was regularly on the perimeter on offense. For pickup games, everyone hates a Laimbeer.
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Rebounding is about intent and effort. Just look at Chuck Barkley. Always undersized but had a career average over 11 a game.

Dunno if its a true story or not but I heard D Rodman studied the shit out of shooters for miss tendencies. That guy averaged 18 per game one season.

yeah, rodman, for all his craziness, lived for rebounding and defense. Your good outside shooters, when they miss, are typically going to miss short. Your 3 point shots are going to rebound long. Your big men, when they have to shoot a J, will typically miss long if they miss. Obviously this doesn't happen 100% of the time but some guys just refuse to even think about rebounding unless the ball lands on their lap.
post #10375 of 18035
I expected something like this to happen years ago. I'll be this gets deployed everywhere.


http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/dolan_deploys_high_tech_mics_chats_RMwIPxp3f8trGDmhUWaHuI

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League sources have confirmed Knicks owner James Dolan, in the wake of the highly volatile trash-talking war between star Carmelo Anthony and the Celtics’ Kevin Garnett last week, ordered two technicians to hold high-tech, sensitive microphones at opposite ends of the Madison Square Garden court to record all in-game conversations by and around his star.
post #10376 of 18035
so i found out recently that 30 on 30 ESPN films are on Netflix. just finished the excellent Reggie vs the Knicks (lol that they were able to get Spike and John Starks on the film) and the Len Bias story (it really is true that for his generation, Bias was like JFK in that everybody remembers where they were and what they were doing when they found out he died).

gonna sit down tonight and bang out the Allen Iverson and Magic stories
post #10377 of 18035
Reggie Miller, man, what an underrated player. I never saw anyone work harder than that stick at getting open in the half court. Constant motion, would go through screen after screen and only needed a millisecond of daylight to drain the shot. Incredible energy and stamina for a guy that looked like he was malnourished. Also probably one of the greatest trash talkers ever. Only guy that I ever recall getting Jordan to lose his shit. That game at the garden, where he hit those 3 shots with like 10 seconds, I literally shat my pants.
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

Reggie Miller, man, what an underrated player. I never saw anyone work harder than that stick at getting open in the half court. Constant motion, would go through screen after screen and only needed a millisecond of daylight to drain the shot. Incredible energy and stamina for a guy that looked like he was malnourished.


Rip Hamilton and Ray Allen has pretty much mastered this and I do not know why it isn't utilized more. I can see this working real well with the Clippers on Jamal Crawford. Sadly, VDN isn't smart enough to draw up plays where more than one person sets a screen.
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

so i found out recently that 30 on 30 ESPN films are on Netflix. just finished the excellent Reggie vs the Knicks

The Fab 5 is great too. All 30 for 30's are. The last one, on Bo Jackson could be the best of them all. The guy was just astonishing.

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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

Reggie Miller, man, what an underrated player. I never saw anyone work harder than that stick at getting open in the half court. Constant motion, would go through screen after screen and only needed a millisecond of daylight to drain the shot. Incredible energy and stamina for a guy that looked like he was malnourished. Also probably one of the greatest trash talkers ever. Only guy that I ever recall getting Jordan to lose his shit. That game at the garden, where he hit those 3 shots with like 10 seconds, I literally shat my pants.

Ha ha, never knew, is it this one?



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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Rip Hamilton and Ray Allen has pretty much mastered this and I do not know why it isn't utilized more. I can see this working real well with the Clippers on Jamal Crawford. Sadly, VDN isn't smart enough to draw up plays where more than one person sets a screen.


Man, the handles on Jamal Crawford? The guy is pretty special.

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