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post #10021 of 18917
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Anyone who uses or knows about Rotoworld, they usually use the star players name (or whoever is performing best at the time) for team news about owners, coaches, building, etc...
Rotoworld also announced the Ind vs. Chi game being cancelled under Paul George and I doubt he had anything to do with the blizzard that hit Chicago.

I know, just having a laugh. But you know that shits true.
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Originally Posted by Biggskip View Post

Who the hell is supposed to score on this team besides Joe Johnson.

Ummm, Lopez averages 20 in the past 2-3 years, Deron averages teeters around ~20ppg too. Those are 3 legit players who could score 20ppg. Humprhies and GWall could score in the teens too out of pure hustle and going after rebounds alone.
post #10023 of 18917
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Those teams aren't contenders but they are the ones with huge pockets coming to the next season and can sign a bunch of players once they have that one core player in their team signed. Dallas has a bunch of 1-year deals and plenty of cap space from trying to get LBJ & Deron. With Dirk still int he mix, add CP3, resign Kaman and add a bunch of other good support group and with Carlisle, it can be a good contender in the West. Orlando is in the same situation, they should have plenty of cap room from getting rid of Dwight and are just looking for another player to get that team over the hump, I mean they are all scrubs in the Magic but they are only 2 games behind 8th place, the Nets. Phoenix might have less cap after signing Gortat and Dragic so they'd have to do trades to even offer CP3.
NYK is practically giving Amare away in the off-season so if anyone bites, he'll be gone for sure. Even if they don't move him, they can amnesty him (each teams get one per year, no?) to free up some $$$ if they think they could get CP3.
Again I want CP3 to stay but him only signing for 2 years tells me he hasn't made up his mind whether he wants to stay or not.

I'll grant you Dallas, maybe, if they can find another couple of pieces. In PHO, I think Sarver paid the Luxury Tax a few seasons and vowed never to do it again. Look at the way they treated Nash the last few seasons he was there. ORL is where good players go do die, or sometimes where good players flee. If CP3 is serious about winning, which I believe he is, I just don't know if there are any better places for him to go other than maybe Dallas.

Just to make the LAC crowd cream in its pants, can you imagine what that team would be doing right now if George Karl had the reins and not VDN?

Lastly, just FYI, the amnesty clause can only be used once by each team. NYK used it on Billups.
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I thought the amnesty is a yearly thing? It's a one time use for the life of the current cba?

I don't think Phoenix treated Nash terribly, they were rebuilding and even gave Nash the greenlight to go to a contending team w/o hassle from the Suns, they wanted to give him a chance to win a chip and they knew the Suns were ready to rebuild with or without him, Nash was just too old and was getting hurt more consistently.


I really do hope CP3 stays but it isn't entirely out of the question and wouldn't be surprised if he leaves when they do not get the championship this year. You'll never know until he signs on the dotted line.
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Amnesty is one time use and they already used it.

 

No way Knicks can sign Paul next year unless some bonehead franchise trades them over $20 million worth of expiring contracts for Amare (someone's probably stupid enough to do this.) Even then, they'll have approx $55 million on the books for next year so they'd still need to make some additional moves to clear up enough space.

 

Only legit possibilities (i.e. teams with cap space and actual good players) is Dallas, Utah, New Orleans, Atlanta, and the Clippers.

 

Count out Utah because when was the last time a superstar signed there?

 

New Orleans has huge upside but is way too young.

 

Atlanta is a dark horse. CP3 + Smith + Horford would be a nice trio. Plus it's close to home for Paul.

 

Choosing Dallas over LAC would essentially mean he'd rather have 2-3 years of whatever Dirk has left over the next 5-10 years of Blake.

 

I still like the Clippers. Not only because they have a talented team, but also because they can offer him an additional $20 million.

 

EDIT: You can add Indiana to this list if they can trade Granger for an expiring. But who really signs with Indiana?

post #10026 of 18917
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Phil Jackson's agent, Todd Musburger, told TNT's David Aldridge via text that Jackson "has no interest in the Nets' job at this time."

Guess that leaves Jerry Sloan nod[1].gif
post #10027 of 18917
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Originally Posted by moffy View Post

New Orleans has huge upside but is way too young.

Robin Lopez has been beasting in his last few games.

Scored 29, 24, 10, 22 in his last 4 with 12 blocks.

I knew he was brothers with Brook, but I didn't know they were twins. Fuck, imagine having twin 7 footers?
post #10028 of 18917
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No way CP3 returns to NO.

And like I said, I hope you guys are right about CP3, I really do.
post #10029 of 18917
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Robin Lopez has been beasting in his last few games.
Scored 29, 24, 10, 22 in his last 4 with 12 blocks.
I knew he was brothers with Brook, but I didn't know they were twins. Fuck, imagine having twin 7 footers?

Did you ever watch Stanford play when they were there? (or Houston with Hakeem and Sampson or San Antonio with Robinson and Duncan)
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Originally Posted by moffy View Post

Amnesty is one time use and they already used it.

No way Knicks can sign Paul next year unless some bonehead franchise trades them over $20 million worth of expiring contracts for Amare (someone's probably stupid enough to do this.) Even then, they'll have approx $55 million on the books for next year so they'd still need to make some additional moves to clear up enough space.

How does the salary cap work? I thought that basically all it meant was that if the Knicks wanted to sign a CP3 next year, they pay a luxury tax on the amount over the cap?
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

How does the salary cap work? I thought that basically all it meant was that if the Knicks wanted to sign a CP3 next year, they pay a luxury tax on the amount over the cap?

Pretty much, the higher from the cap the bigger the luxury tax too. I mean I know the Knicks didn't want to do it with Lin but for CP3, I think they'll go with it. Who knows though.
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

Did you ever watch Stanford play when they were there? (or Houston with Hakeem and Sampson or San Antonio with Robinson and Duncan)

Nah. I dont give shit all about college ball. I lost touch around the Fab 5 era/Mourning-Motombo. Especially now when everyone good leaves after their first season. What's the point? But shit Motombo and Mourning? AVERAGED 12 blocks per game together at Gtown. Biggest pair of monsters on the court in college ever.

Definitely watched in the Hakeem-Sampson era. Remember Sampson well in College, UVA, what a beast but a letdown as a pro past his first season or 2. And Robinson-Duncan for sure. I remember Robinson in college, actually Hakeem too. He was called Akeem in college I think. Univ of Houston phi slamma jamma right?

Hakeem remains my favorite NBA player ever.

Shit, best college team ever was that Larry Johnson UNLV team. And those Georgetown teams in the 80's! Those early success Duke teams. I was raised around the ACC and big East. I didnt even see Iverson when he was a Hoya.
Edited by idfnl - 12/27/12 at 5:32pm
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the last time i regularly watched college basketball was the last season i covered it, which culminated with my only Final Four tournament. Which, of course, turned out to be a good one to cover:
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Pretty much, the higher from the cap the bigger the luxury tax too. I mean I know the Knicks didn't want to do it with Lin but for CP3, I think they'll go with it. Who knows though.

yeah, I don't think the Knicks will have interest in CP3 assuming the season continues as it is now but if Dolan gets it in his head that he wants someone, money is no object.
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Nah. I dont give shit all about college ball. I lost touch around the Fab 5 era. Especially now when everyone good leaves after their first season. What's the point?
Definitely watched in the Hakeem-Sampson era. Remember Sampson well in College, UVA, what a beast. And Robinson-Duncan for sure.

College is definitely suffering because of that one and done shit. I mean its easy to sit here and tell some kid to stay in school to play 3-4 years but anything can happen in that timeframe and if you are going to be drafted in the first round after your first year, its hard to turn that down. When guys like Austin Rivers do it though, I'm left scratching my head.

The Fab Five was one of my favorite college teams, as was the UNLV team with LJ, Augmon, Anthony. College ball is still more exciting than the pro's though, especially the tournament. I remember first time I saw Stephen Curry in the '08 tournament, I was like, "oh, this little kid is playing because of his dad". I did not think he was going to be this successful in the NBA to be honest with you, I didn't think Kevin Durant would either, I thought he would become another one of these big lanky guys that is too slow to play small and too weak to play strong.
post #10035 of 18917
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

yeah, I don't think the Knicks will have interest in CP3 assuming the season continues as it is now but if Dolan gets it in his head that he wants someone, money is no object.
College is definitely suffering because of that one and done shit. I mean its easy to sit here and tell some kid to stay in school to play 3-4 years but anything can happen in that timeframe and if you are going to be drafted in the first round after your first year, its hard to turn that down. When guys like Austin Rivers do it though, I'm left scratching my head.
The Fab Five was one of my favorite college teams, as was the UNLV team with LJ, Augmon, Anthony. College ball is still more exciting than the pro's though, especially the tournament. I remember first time I saw Stephen Curry in the '08 tournament, I was like, "oh, this little kid is playing because of his dad". I did not think he was going to be this successful in the NBA to be honest with you, I didn't think Kevin Durant would either, I thought he would become another one of these big lanky guys that is too slow to play small and too weak to play strong.
all about willpower ed. those guys have "heart" and natural talent (combined with the rule changes that do not favor / allow rugged defense to be played) - most NBA players lack both.
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