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post #11791 of 14449
I need to PM you about the avy bet.

Second game I watched all year....

But they do have to do it for the whole series.

TBT I've never thought about matchups w MIA...

My initial idea would be to put Leonard on LBJ and make the rest of the team beat you.
post #11792 of 14449
Hey Steve, maybe you should IM him about the avy bet.smile.gif

You mean PM? smile.gif
post #11793 of 14449
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Hey Steve, maybe you should IM him about the avy bet.smile.gif

i think that's Stevie's subtle sense of humor, commenting on the way his Spurs were hitting their threes yesterday. foo.gif
post #11794 of 14449
The Forum has been double and triple posting me automatically lately. For this I am grateful. It means my words carry 3 times the import of other members.
post #11795 of 14449
You can say that again.
post #11796 of 14449
so it looks like Vinny Del Negro will be fired.... hmmm.... I wonder if phil jackson is interested.

when I was reading the article I saw that the clippers had 56 wins.. damn thats pretty good despite the crappy coaching. I wonder if this team really is a championship contender with the right coach..

it really does look like the clips are positioning themselves to re-sign cp3. I wonder if they will try to maneuver into the dwight howard talks too.
post #11797 of 14449
Thread Starter 
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Vinny Del Negro will not return as L.A. Clippers' head coach, according to report


http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/5/21/4352584/vinny-del-negro-la-clippers-fired



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post #11798 of 14449
I haven't followed the Clippers closely enough (and am probably not basketball-smart enough anyway) to know whether VDN is a terrible coach or a pretty good one. But it clearly had gotten to the point where the public opposition to him had made his position pretty untenable unless they ended up going to the Finals. The disdain with which he is held may well have a solid basis in fact, but it's clear that there's also just a lot of flavor-of-the-month piling on by folks who (like me) have no real basis to express an informed opinion.
Proximity notwithstanding, this comment is not any any way directed at RX ^. Just a general observation.
post #11799 of 14449
FWIW Jeff Van Gundy speaks highly of his wife's chocolate chip cookies.
post #11800 of 14449
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

I haven't followed the Clippers closely enough (and am probably not basketball-smart enough anyway) to know whether VDN is a terrible coach or a pretty good one. But it clearly had gotten to the point where the public opposition to him had made his position pretty untenable unless they ended up going to the Finals. The disdain with which he is held may well have a solid basis in fact, but it's clear that there's also just a lot of flavor-of-the-month piling on by folks who (like me) have no real basis to express an informed opinion.
Proximity notwithstanding, this comment is not any any way directed at RX ^. Just a general observation.


I take no offense at all, no worries, but he really is a terrible coach and this is known league-wise. CP3 is the teams coach and almost everyone knows that, sadly.

Bleacher report makes crappy lists at times but this list from last year is pretty damn accurate:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1179158-10-reasons-vinny-del-negro-is-still-a-problem-for-the-los-angeles-clippers


#7 alone tells you how terrible of a coach he is, I kept pointing out to this scenario last year over and over again just because it simply boggles the mind:

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It will never be forgotten that Chris Paul had to talk Del Negro into letting him come back in and lead the comeback in Game 1 that will go down in history as one of the greatest in the history of the game.

When a coach had to be talked into letting his team fight to comeback, it says a lot about his character as a coach and how much he believes in a team. If a coach doesn’t believe in his team, how is he going to inspire them?


http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/60404/nba-short-attention-span-power-rankings-back-to-the-grindhouse?ex_cid=grantland33
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3. Vinny Del Negro, Lord of the Idiots

Brett Koremenos: A coach’s primary job is to manage a rotation. If you play the right players, at the right time, it almost doesn’t matter what you run or how you choose to defend, because an optimal lineup will put you in a position to succeed. Vinny Del Negro’s Game 5 performance, in that respect, was, in a word, lacking. Here are the four biggest blunders from last night and the series in general:

1. Eric Bledsoe didn’t play nearly enough; Chris Paul played too much
It was particularly egregious to see Bledsoe fail to reenter the game until very late in the third quarter after a sterling five-minute stretch in the first half. Not only that, but he needed to be trusted to give Paul a brief rest in the second half. Because Paul played the entire second half, he wore down at the end and forced the team to go through a stretch late in the fourth where it was Jamal Crawford and Bledsoe handling the ball in pick-and-rolls while Paul conserved energy as a spot-up shooter.

2. Blake Griffin needed to be rescued from himself
Griffin showed great toughness by giving it a go on a bad ankle, but after returning midway through the second quarter, it was quite clear he just wasn’t a guy capable of helping his team in a meaningful way. This is important to consider, given Del Negro allowed him to start the second half and play the first six minutes — a stretch in which the Clippers were outscored by seven.

3. The carousel of big men needs to stop
Rotating five big men — Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Ronny Turiaf, Ryan Hollins, and Lamar Odom — is a fine strategy when all five are extremely talented or you’re playing a game in the preseason. But Turiaf and Hollins have limited skills, and Odom is a shell of his former self. When Griffin is healthy, he and Jordan, despite their poor foul shooting, should have the lion’s share of minutes while Odom should fill out the rest. And despite rotating through three of them (Odom, Jordan, and Turiaf) in the final quarter as he attempted to slow down Zach Randolph, Del Negro somehow passed over the guy who was the most effective the majority of the evening (Hollins).

4. Failing to go small against Memphis is a sin
While Randolph and Marc Gasol are a load to handle inside from a defensive standpoint, they can be exposed by teams that go small with a 4 man who's capable of stretching the floor. Randolph, in particular, struggles to guard in space, and the Clippers had some success on the offensive end of the floor when Matt Barnes played as a small-ball 4. If Paul had more gas in the tank, there’s a good chance the Clippers could've ripped apart the Memphis defense and put Hollins in a difficult position with his own rotation.



In addition, lots analyst (and even Barkely) recognizes how terrible his offensive set it:
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Alex Kennedy ✔ @AlexKennedyNBA

A number of players were upset with Vinny Del Negro after tonight's loss. They didn't agree with some of his decisions and let him know.
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Ken Berger @KBergCBS

Every game I watch Vinny Del Negro coach is strategically unrecognizable to me.
post #11801 of 14449
unbelievable to me that VDN being a terrible coach is still a point of argument anywhere.
post #11802 of 14449
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

I take no offense at all, no worries, but he really is a terrible coach and this is known league-wise. CP3 is the teams coach and almost everyone knows that, sadly.

Bleacher report makes crappy lists at times but this list from last year is pretty damn accurate:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1179158-10-reasons-vinny-del-negro-is-still-a-problem-for-the-los-angeles-clippers


#7 alone tells you how terrible of a coach he is, I kept pointing out to this scenario last year over and over again just because it simply boggles the mind:
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/60404/nba-short-attention-span-power-rankings-back-to-the-grindhouse?ex_cid=grantland33
In addition, lots analyst (and even Barkely) recognizes how terrible his offensive set it:

Reminds me of the Lavin days at UCLA. smile.gif (Unlike with the current Clippers situation, I followed UCLA closely enough at the time - had season tickets with my dad -- to hold the informed decision that Lavin was a disaster.)
post #11803 of 14449
Thread Starter 
Cavs got #1 pick again. Not even sure who is good in the draft but a good supporting player next to Irving would be great.

Portland with #10 and OKC with #12.
post #11804 of 14449
Thread Starter 
Tony Allen flop could steal a game away from Spurs. WoW!
post #11805 of 14449
Regardless of supporting Spurs or Memphis, tonight has been some superb basketball. Probably the best game this season, save maybe bulls heat g1.
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