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post #11026 of 14360
I ran into Ben Wallace after a game once. His forearms were the size of my neck
post #11027 of 14360
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

I dont think the defending in the league is that big of a shambles. I thought it was worse when all the high schoolers were entering the league.

Spurs, Celtics, Bulls, Heat, OKC, Knicks (occasionally), Grizzlies, even the Wizards play some decent D. There are teams that are downright swiss cheese like the Suns, Lakers, Kings and Raptors but on the whole the youngster's defending is better today than when guys like Kwame Brown were getting drafted.

While I smell the nostalgia, those Pistons/Knicks years were some grindingly bad basketball to watch. Enforcers are fine, but the league doesn't want them and flagrants would eliminate their value.

I don't know if its quality and intent as much as rule changes such as hand checking now being a foul. The league wants excitement, but I would agree its gone too far and some games start to look as awful as all star games.

The overhype of the Knicks and Pistons brawl style has lead, in many ways, to the backlash on that style of physical defense we see now. The ultimate intent was to slow down Jordan and it failed, while setting hoops back.
post #11028 of 14360
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Originally Posted by life_interrupts View Post

The overhype of the Knicks and Pistons brawl style has lead, in many ways, to the backlash on that style of physical defense we see now. The ultimate intent was to slow down Jordan and it failed, while setting hoops back.

I don't know about overhype. Detroit was playing that way before Jordan and the Celtics weren't exactly a run and gun team when they were busy playing for chips against LA. I think the East was typically a brawl style (Philly, NY, Indiana, Miami etc) and the West considered more run and gun. The game doesn't have to grind to a halt but guys seem to get to basket now with a bunch of defenders just watching them. Anyway, enough of that. I love Dikembe and the man was a tremendous shot blocker which meant that everyone went out every game trying to dunk in his face to show him up. Here are some great contested dunks against him. I appreciate this more than the lob city type stuff that goes on now.
post #11029 of 14360
now you guys have me on an old school dunk video search

remember this guy in atlanta?
post #11030 of 14360
My favorite Wilkins quote (about the brother). "If Gerald Wilkins were better at finishing on the fast break, he would be a decent one-dimensional player."

'niqe was amazing to watch, but I was never a huge fan of his overall game.
post #11031 of 14360
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Originally Posted by life_interrupts View Post

The overhype of the Knicks and Pistons brawl style has lead, in many ways, to the backlash on that style of physical defense we see now. The ultimate intent was to slow down Jordan and it failed, while setting hoops back.

Exactly right. Zero nostalgia for 90's basketball. Teams play pretty complicated team defense these days.
post #11032 of 14360
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I don't know about overhype. Detroit was playing that way before Jordan and the Celtics weren't exactly a run and gun team when they were busy playing for chips against LA. I think the East was typically a brawl style (Philly, NY, Indiana, Miami etc) and the West considered more run and gun. The game doesn't have to grind to a halt but guys seem to get to basket now with a bunch of defenders just watching them. Anyway, enough of that. I love Dikembe and the man was a tremendous shot blocker which meant that everyone went out every game trying to dunk in his face to show him up. Here are some great contested dunks against him. I appreciate this more than the lob city type stuff that goes on now.

I don't argue that D is less prevalent recently--with the rule changes for zones, you allow for leas on the ball press and more willingness to allow shooters better long looks. But the move from physical to borderline mugging did no one any favors and skilled teams like Houston or San Antonio still overcame the Force style.

Love the Dikembe vid and that he made people want to try and dunk on him.
post #11033 of 14360
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now you guys have me on an old school dunk video search

remember this guy in atlanta?



That dunk on Bird was the nuts. He sat there for a moment and I know what he was thinking.
post #11034 of 14360
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Love the Dikembe vid and that he made people want to try and dunk on him.

It was more than that.

Agents tell their guys not to be in the poster. Dikembe was immutable. The finger wag meant that no posterization would stick.

Now, Kendrick Perkins, not so much. I still think of him getting straddled, even though I love him.
post #11035 of 14360
Burn Baby Burn
post #11036 of 14360
Whelp, we're fucked.
post #11037 of 14360
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

now you guys have me on an old school dunk video search

remember this guy in atlanta?

The # 5 dunk is amazing, double clutch two handed jam in traffic.
post #11038 of 14360
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post #11039 of 14360
well, while the Knick are busy sinking, I'm on a nostalgic dunks trip.

This is for Dopey. Physically, Kemp was like a LeBron but he did not have LeBron's basketball skills. I can't recall though, anyone that was as relentless as him once he decided he was going to the basket and I still have not seen anyone dunk on a reverse like Kemp did. He made it seem like a layup.



I was never a big Clyde fan, that Portland team was so unlikeable (Porter/Kersey) but I think he was an underrated player as people got caught up in all the dunks and stuff but the man could dunk. I think in one of the dunks here he takes off at the free throw line.
post #11040 of 14360
that facial on david robinson was great
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