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post #10036 of 11876
12/27/12 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by foodguy View Post

the last time i regularly watched college basketball was the last season i covered it, which culminated with my only Final Four tournament. Which, of course, turned out to be a good one to cover:

NC St should never have won. Valvano was a god in the ACC after that. Haven't repeated since if I recall.
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post #10037 of 11876
12/27/12 at 5:42pm
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College is definitely suffering because of that one and done shit. I mean its easy to sit here and tell some kid to stay in school to play 3-4 years but anything can happen in that timeframe and if you are going to be drafted in the first round after your first year, its hard to turn that down. When guys like Austin Rivers do it though, I'm left scratching my head.
The Fab Five was one of my favorite college teams, as was the UNLV team with LJ, Augmon, Anthony. College ball is still more exciting than the pro's though, especially the tournament. I remember first time I saw Stephen Curry in the '08 tournament, I was like, "oh, this little kid is playing because of his dad". I did not think he was going to be this successful in the NBA to be honest with you, I didn't think Kevin Durant would either, I thought he would become another one of these big lanky guys that is too slow to play small and too weak to play strong.

More than suffering, its shit now.

The NBA is getting these guys before their bodies tighten and they all become a bunch of James Worthy's. More athleticism in the league.

No way its more exciting. I did watch that Butler team, though, with Gordon Hayward. Nice story. But NBA playoffs are more fun to me.
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post #10038 of 11876
12/27/12 at 5:44pm
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How does the salary cap work? I thought that basically all it meant was that if the Knicks wanted to sign a CP3 next year, they pay a luxury tax on the amount over the cap?

 

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Pretty much, the higher from the cap the bigger the luxury tax too. I mean I know the Knicks didn't want to do it with Lin but for CP3, I think they'll go with it. Who knows though.

 

 

Nope, that's not how the cap works.

 

There are 4 ways of acquiring a player: draft, trade, signing a player whose bird rights you own (i.e. generally a free agent who was on your team at the end of last season), and signing a player whose bird rights you don't own (i.e a free agent who was not on your team at the end of last season.)

 

With drafting, trading, and signing free-agents whose bird rights you own, you can exceed the salary cap. With signing a free-agent whose bird rights you don't own, you can pay up to the maximum that is within the salary cap.

 

So say the cap is $50 million. If the Knicks salary at end of year is $40 million, the max they would be allowed to offer Chris Paul is $10 million a year. However, if the Clippers salary was at $75 million, they could still offer Paul the maximum $20 million per year because they own his bird rights.

 

If a team is over the cap (i.e. the Knicks), the maximum they can offer a non-bird-right free agent is the mid-level exception which maxes out at around $5-ish million a year.

 

As another example, take the Lakers. Before the season started they were well over the salary cap so they could not sign any non-bird-right free agents for over the mid-level exception. That's why the only free agent signings they could make were Meeks and Jamison (you can split the mid-level into an x amount of players.)

 

Also, Steve Nash was an unrestricted free-agent but the Lakers couldn't offer him more than the mid-level because they were over the cap. That's why they ended up having to acquire him via a trade. It was the only way they could get him and pay him $9 million a year.

 

So basically, if you're over the cap, you can throw as much money into the players whose bird rights you own or make trades, but you cannot sign free agents for more than the mid-level. So there is no way the Knicks can get Chris Paul unless they trade for him, get $20 million under the cap, or sign him for the $5 million mid-level.

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post #10039 of 11876
12/27/12 at 5:55pm
Thread Starter 
That makes sense, thanks for the explanation.
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post #10040 of 11876
12/27/12 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

NC St should never have won. Valvano was a god in the ACC after that. Haven't repeated since if I recall.
yeah. how does a college team with hakeem olajuwan and clyde drexler lose? the joke then was that guy lewis went to sleep in the final and dreamed he was a coach.
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post #10041 of 11876
12/27/12 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted by foodguy View Post

yeah. how does a college team with hakeem olajuwan and clyde drexler lose? the joke then was that guy lewis went to sleep in the final and dreamed he was a coach.

I did not watch that game (I was just a baby then) but I would assume NC State stuck to a 2-3 zone to neutralize Drexler/Olajuwan? The best (or worse) college game I ever saw was the Princeton v. Georgetown game in '89. At the beginning of the game, Vitale, in his usual loud voice, had said that he would join the Princeton cheerleading squad if Princeton won. At halftime it was like 24-25 or something, I think Princeton had the lead. They cut to the studio and Vitale is sitting there shocked, speechless and the other anchor turns to him dryly and says "Princeton called and asked what size tutu you wear".

It was my first introduction to Pete Carill and that crazy offense and I loved it. It was so beautiful to see, a bunch of no name players, I think their center was like 6'5" or something. Whenever I bump into Mourning (humblebrag), I always give him shit about that game.
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post #10042 of 11876
12/27/12 at 6:48pm
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yeah. how does a college team with hakeem olajuwan and clyde drexler lose? the joke then was that guy lewis went to sleep in the final and dreamed he was a coach.

I think this is one of the aspects that makes the NCAA tournament so compelling. You only have to beat each team once in order to advance to the next round. If UH and NCST had played a five or seven game series there's no way that NCST would have won. But in one game, anything can happen.

Also, to whomever said that Ralph Sampson was a disappointment in his first two years, the guy put up 20 & 10. Speaking of the Rockets, this piece is long, but it is really really good.
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post #10043 of 11876
12/27/12 at 8:25pm
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

I did not watch that game (I was just a baby then) but I would assume NC State stuck to a 2-3 zone to neutralize Drexler/Olajuwan? The best (or worse) college game I ever saw was the Princeton v. Georgetown game in '89. At the beginning of the game, Vitale, in his usual loud voice, had said that he would join the Princeton cheerleading squad if Princeton won. At halftime it was like 24-25 or something, I think Princeton had the lead. They cut to the studio and Vitale is sitting there shocked, speechless and the other anchor turns to him dryly and says "Princeton called and asked what size tutu you wear".
It was my first introduction to Pete Carill and that crazy offense and I loved it. It was so beautiful to see, a bunch of no name players, I think their center was like 6'5" or something. Whenever I bump into Mourning (humblebrag), I always give him shit about that game.

My favorite NCAA run ever was the '90 Loyola Marymount team that had Hank Gathers die. Man, if he lived, that team would have won the tournament. What a roller coaster to watch.
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Also, to whomever said that Ralph Sampson was a disappointment in his first two years, the guy put up 20 & 10. Speaking of the Rockets, this piece is long, but it is really really good.

I said except for his 2 first seasons....
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Remember Sampson well in College, UVA, what a beast but a letdown as a pro past his first season or 2
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post #10044 of 11876
12/27/12 at 8:28pm
Anybody who doesn't think that Williams had a hand in getting Johnson fired is either high or completely oblivious.
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post #10045 of 11876
12/27/12 at 8:41pm
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Anybody who doesn't think that Williams had a hand in getting Johnson fired is either high or completely oblivious.

You go girl

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post #10046 of 11876
12/27/12 at 8:55pm

Yeah Williams got Avery fired ... but what will happen next if the Nets continue to suck?
 

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post #10047 of 11876
12/28/12 at 5:16am
Fuck man, those Clippers have 2 solid traits that make them really tough to beat. 1st is that bench, we know that. 2nd is they play at a speed that only Miami and OKC can match. Last night against Boston they had some moments where some of those C's were just rooted to the floor while getting blown past.

And Sac needs to trade D Cousins. Just get whoever. That guy is a poison. Saw his media interview yesterday, wow, just wow he's a bonehead.

http://fox40.com/2012/12/27/nba-player-storms-out-of-interview/
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post #10048 of 11876
12/28/12 at 6:08am
damn the celtics got steamrolled.

I wish they would just bring back their normal road jerseys back.

I love how DeAndre Jordan and Blake get so excited on some plays that the celebration turns into a borderline homo-erotic display of affection towards each other.

I'm not hating on them... its just that their: "I love you Bro!" "I love you MORE Bro!!" public displays of affection are so pure its a joy to watch.








"I need a hug Bro!" "It feels so good Bro! Don't let go of me Bro!" "I won't, I feel it too Bro!....I love you Bro!"
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post #10049 of 11876
12/28/12 at 6:21am
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

damn the celtics got steamrolled.
I wish they would just bring back their normal road jerseys back.
I love how DeAndre Jordan and Blake get so excited on some plays that the celebration turns into a borderline homo-erotic display of affection towards each other.
I'm not hating on them... its just that their: "I love you Bro!" "I love you MORE Bro!!" public displays of affection are so pure its a joy to watch.

You likes it, the bro-love?
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post #10050 of 11876
12/28/12 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post


Damn, he goes for a breast cup and everything. If he didnt have that phone in his hand he'd have gotten some too.

And check out Blake's face in that last frame and double damn, the way he leans in on his hand.
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