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harvey_birdman 
Widely considered by who? I'm pretty sure Beethoven would disagree with that statement.
Could you be any less specific? "various music gene's that have shaped and revolutionized music" is meaningless drivel.
I still take that stance.
No, it's not the opposite. Radio play back in those days sucked just as hard. You just can't remember that far back because you are so goddamn old.
Lol, you accuse Soundgarden of being a Sabbath rip off (which there may be some truth to) but then you elevate KISS and Alice Cooper? Holy gimmicky crap. NOBODY thinks of KISS or Alice Cooper as revolutionary. They are entertaining, and Cooper puts on a good live show, but they are not the voice of a generation and not likely to make any legitimate music critics best of list.
Because the album came out in 1987. And you were suggesting music was better back then compared to today.
And where do you think those '60s and '70s bands came from, stupid?
Look, I love Zeppelin. I really do. But you have to stop holding them up as some kind of revolutionary game-changer. If you knew jack shit about music you would know there has never been a bigger rip off band than Led Zeppelin.
There weren't 63 bands that sound just like the Beatles? Seriously?
Music has never "defined a generation". Stop with your tired cliches. I listen to music I like, not that others like. If there ever was a period where music "defined a generation" it was only because there were only two radio stations so you had to listen to what was played on the pop channel unless you wanted to listen to the Bible Station.
Pretty sure people are going to remember the Flaming Lips and Beck and Radiohead and The White Stripes and Jay Z for a little while longer. Certainly longer than anybody is going to give a shit about Whitesnake.
Probably not. People have a very short attention span. Most kids in high school nowadays have no idea who the Beatles or Rolling Stones were. They certainly aren't going to remember Bon Jovi or Whitesnake in another ten years. And that's fine. People are not required to focus on the past. Onward and upward. Shit, one of the best things of the last ten years was Danger Mouse's Grey Album, and half the people who listened to that had never heard the White Album. BUT THAT'S OK. Things change. Some things are forgotten, but life keeps on moving. Accept it.
Absolutely not. I've got plenty of good albums I want to listen to. I have no desire to listen to the junk that you play in your Toyota Sienna while you drive your disabled wife to the cardiologist.
1. We are talking about rock music for most part here from the 60's and 70's vs. now, so your Beethoven comment is moronic. Thus the 60's and 70's ARE considered by the masses to be greatest decades ever for music based simply on all the legendary artists that came out of those decades. Sorry, but nothing even remotely comparable in music happened in 2000 to 2010.
2. Why is shaping and revolutionizing music so hard for you to understand? It's a band or artist that has come along chaged the future landscape for music by creating a sound or doing something innovative that has never been done before, but is copied by millions of people in future generations. Hendrix is one of those and so is Zeppelin. Eddie Van Halen revolutionized rock guitar playing in the 80's with tapping and then every guitarist after him completely copied him. I hope that explains shaping and revolutionizing music for you.
3. Yes, radio play did suck in the 60's and 70's - so how do you explain over a 100 hard rock bands in two decades that became incredibly successful and sold millions of albums and yet the bands you like in a decade with bad music on the radio as well, have sold dick and are not incredibly successful by any stretch of the imagination.
4. KISS and Alice Cooper are both very revolutionary for the bands that they are ala theatrical. This is where I can tell that you are not very educated when it comes to music history, because they are many famous bands were certain members of the band and solo artists have admitted to the fact that it was KISS, who made them pick up a guitar in the first place or who influenced them to want to be rock stars/musicians.
I will name you a few right now - Lenny Kravitz, Metallica, Warrant, Faster Pussycat; Garth Brooks, Motley Crue, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Poison, Soundgarden, Hootie And The Blowfish, Anthrax, Skid Row, Extreme, Stone Temple Pilots, Megadeth, Alice In Chains, Venom, Nuclear Assault, WASP, Weezer, Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson. See this list? When everyone was a child or teenager, it was KISS that opened the door for them to want to be musicians. You clearly don't know what the fuck you are talking about. No one is saying that their music is anything great, but it still spoke to millions of people - some who became future rock stars.
5. Learn to read jackass - I said Guns N' Roses are considered the Zeppelin of the 80's and 90's, but I wasn't defending the 80's in terms of pop or any other music genre. Take a list of all the rock bands from 1980 to 1990 and it certainly kicks the ass of 2000 to 2010.
6. Yes, you listen to music that you like and that's fine - but for you to remotely suggest that the 90's and 00's is better or just as good as the 60's and 70's - just makes you look stupid when you consider the music that has been produced from those era's. Everyone knows that The Godfather is one of the greatest films of all time even if you didn't agree with the general consenus that the film is epic. If you had any brains, you would still concede that the film is recognized as such by the masses even if you disagree. I wouldn't need to provide you with a fucking link to back up my argument. Just like I don't when it comes to the 60's and 70's vs. now. The list of bands speak born in those decades speak volumes about what those decades mean to music.
7. You know what's hilarious about you - Whitesnake has been around since 1978 and their last album of all new material in 2008 sold 350,000 copies. They are doing better than most modern artists, so you can shut the fuck up now and admit to not knowing what you are talking about.
8. Most kids in high school today are fucking morons and this generation is full of non-contributing zeroes - so that ain't saying much. But at the same time, how do you explain the millions of kids rocking out on Guitar Hero and classic rock bands? You don't think many of these kids are checking out a lot of the classic rock bands featured on these games and really liking them to the point that they realize modern rock sucks? I certainly think it happens quite often.
The modern bands that I like:
1. The White Stripes.
2. The Black Keys
3. Wolfmother
4. Jet
5. Joe Bonamassa
6. Alter Bridge
7. Black Stone Cherry
8. The Answer
9. Big Elf
10. Pride Tiger
11. Year Long Disaster
12. The Parlour Mob
13. Black Label Society
14. Black Mountain
15. Them Crooked Vultures
whew
