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Do You Want To Hear New Music From Your Favorite Rock Band From The 70's/80's?

post #1 of 106
9/20/10 at 8:16am
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Over the last couple of years, I have read many interviews from rock bands and classic rock bands who still tour on occasion, but haven't released any new music in many years - but the reason for this or so they claim is that it's because fans don't want new music and are happy just with the old stuff.

In addition to not being inspired to write new music and living off the past, I think it really has more to do with the fact that they don't want to spend any money recording a new album - only to have it die because of illegal downloading and the fact that CD's in general are not selling.

I love music and for me, I will always buy new music from any artist/band that I love (I am a completist when it comes to band disographies) - but since I don't speak for everyone, do you want to hear new music from your past favorite bands or is the nostalgia of hit songs enough for you, since you have discovered many new bands?
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post #2 of 106
9/20/10 at 9:10am
unless husker du reformed.....no.
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post #3 of 106
9/20/10 at 9:30am
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unless husker du reformed.....no.

Well what are some of your favorite bands from the 70's and 80's?
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post #4 of 106
9/20/10 at 10:04am
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Well what are some of your favorite bands from the 70's and 80's?

pixies....touring now...wouldn't be interested in new songs...
black flag....nope
cromags...reformation...never happen
bad brains.....really should stop playing
soundgarden.....reformed....new song is a 10 year old b-side....nope
meat puppets....still play....nothing good released since "huevos"
camper van beethoven...touring.......wouldn't be interested in new songs....
the feelies....doing shows again...not sure i'd want to hear new shit.
the replacements....reunion would probably never happen....nothing good after "tim".
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post #5 of 106
9/20/10 at 10:11am
Depends. For most bands there is a very short window where they produce something of value, and everything thereafter is derivative garbage.

Having said that I will still listen to every new album Willie Nelson puts out.
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post #6 of 106
9/20/10 at 11:19am
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unless husker du reformed.....no.

That's something I wouldn't mind seeing: I think Hart and Mould kept each other interesting.

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Depends. For most bands there is a very short window where they produce something of value, and everything thereafter is derivative garbage.

Having said that I will still listen to every new album Willie Nelson puts out.

Agree on Willie, too.

But, yeah - outside of a few outliers (Beatles, Stones, Dylan, maybe Zep) there's only a few peak years of good production - and after that it's downhill from there. A rejuvenation is fun to watch (Metallica, Alice in Chains, for instance) but too often they fall well short of even the most modest hopes.

And it just occurred to me that - in more than a few cases - some of these bands just weren't all that good to start with.
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post #7 of 106
9/20/10 at 11:30am
i'd buy a new talking heads album.
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post #8 of 106
9/20/10 at 12:04pm
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That's something I wouldn't mind seeing: I think Hart and Mould kept each other interesting.



Agree on Willie, too.

But, yeah - outside of a few outliers (Beatles, Stones, Dylan, maybe Zep) there's only a few peak years of good production - and after that it's downhill from there. A rejuvenation is fun to watch (Metallica, Alice in Chains, for instance) but too often they fall well short of even the most modest hopes.

And it just occurred to me that - in more than a few cases - some of these bands just weren't all that good to start with.

Well when you consider the fact that music today for the most part is the worst in decades and most new rock bands suck, a new Van Halen album for example (which is coming out in 2011 with David Lee Roth) is actually a refeshing thought.

Everyone knows that the quality between the 10th album vs. the first few isn't going to be the same, but I guess the whole point of a band being your favorite - is that even the 10th album is still better than alot of other bands out there and they still deliver for the most part.
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post #9 of 106
9/20/10 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by limping_decorum View Post
pixies....touring now...wouldn't be interested in new songs...
black flag....nope
cromags...reformation...never happen
bad brains.....really should stop playing
soundgarden.....reformed....new song is a 10 year old b-side....nope
meat puppets....still play....nothing good released since "huevos"
camper van beethoven...touring.......wouldn't be interested in new songs....
the feelies....doing shows again...not sure i'd want to hear new shit.
the replacements....reunion would probably never happen....nothing good after "tim".

At the very least, you have to admit that a new Soundgarden album would blow away Audioslave and shitty Cornell solo.
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post #10 of 106
9/20/10 at 12:23pm
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Well when you consider the fact that music today for the most part is the worst in decades and most new rock bands suck, a new Van Halen album for example (which is coming out in 2011 with David Lee Roth) is actually a refeshing thought.

Why is it a "fact" that music today for the most part is the worst in decades? I don't understand this criticism. There is great music coming out everyday. Sure, it's not going to be on MTV or top 40 radio, but most of that stuff always stunk.

What most people seem to miss is that 90% of EVERYTHING is garbage. It doesn't matter if you go back to the '90s, the '80s, or the '70s or earlier. There are a few highlights, maybe a dozen albums per year that are of any real value, and everything else is disposable trash. That's the way it was then, that's the way it is now. Stop trying to live in this special view of the past as something of great music and recognize the great music that's being released on a regular basis right now.
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post #11 of 106
9/20/10 at 12:53pm
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Why is it a "fact" that music today for the most part is the worst in decades? I don't understand this criticism. There is great music coming out everyday. Sure, it's not going to be on MTV or top 40 radio, but most of that stuff always stunk.

What most people seem to miss is that 90% of EVERYTHING is garbage. It doesn't matter if you go back to the '90s, the '80s, or the '70s or earlier. There are a few highlights, maybe a dozen albums per year that are of any real value, and everything else is disposable trash. That's the way it was then, that's the way it is now. Stop trying to live in this special view of the past as something of great music and recognize the great music that's being released on a regular basis right now.

The music released at the forefront today is fucking awful and as I said, most rock bands that are indeed popular today are just terrible. If your position is that there are some great new bands out there that need to be discovered by the masses - I totally agree with you, but the reality is those great bands are not breaking through and thus they never become successful enough to provide relief from view the slew of shitty rock bands out there that have made it. Yes, there is great music out there if you look hard enough, but unfortunately it's not defining the decade as much as the shit is.

You are also wrong about previous decades. In the 60's and 70's - there are countless great albums and a rock and roll history worth of epic bands and artists. When you just look at the 70's alone - in 10 years, look at all the classic rock bands that were born. We are talking like 50+ bands/artists that became rock gods and will be remembered forever. 98% of all music released today, won't be remembered 10 years from now and certainly no one is a rock god so to speak.

I would be curious to hear what bands today you think are so great and will be remembered forever, because we don't have a Zeppelin for this decade and I don't think you can prove me wrong about that no matter how great the music might be by today's standards. By the way, the last two rock bands to truly take on epic status were Guns N' Roses in the late 80's/early 90's and Nirvana for changing the landscape once ruled by hair bands. I certainly hope you don't think those emo rock bands we have today or bands like Arcade Fire fuckin' rock, cause they don't.
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post #12 of 106
9/20/10 at 1:08pm
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The music released at the forefront today is fucking awful and as I said, most rock bands that are indeed popular today are just terrible. If your position is that there are some great new bands out there that need to be discovered by the masses - I totally agree with you, but the reality is those great bands are not breaking through and thus they never become successful enough to provide relief from view the slew of shitty rock bands out there that have made it. Yes, there is great music out there if you look hard enough, but unfortunately it's not defining the decade as much as the shit is.

This is such revisionist history. If you want good music you will ALWAYS have to look hard for it.

I agree that Gn'R was a great band. So let's look at the year Appetite, a PHENOMENAL ALBUM, came out, 1987. The top 20 albums that year were:

1\tSLIPPERY WHEN WET - Bon Jovi (Mercury)
2\tTHE JOSHUA TREE - U2 (Island)
3\tWHITESNAKE (Geffen)
4\tGRACELAND - Paul Simon (Warner Bros.)
5\tLICENSED TO ILL - The Beastie Boys (Def Jam)
6\tWHITNEY - Whitney Houston (Arista)
7\tTANGO IN THE NIGHT - Fleetwood Mac (Warner Bros.)
8\tBAD ANIMALS - Heart (Capitol)
9\tBIGGER AND DEFFER - L.L. Cool J (Def Jam)
10\tDUOTONES - Kenny G (Arista)
11\tLA BAMBA - Original Soundtrack/Los Lobos (Slash)
12\tINVISIBLE TOUCH - Genesis (Atlantic)
13\tGIRLS, GIRLS, GIRLS - Motley Crue (Elektra)
14\tHYSTERIA - Def Leppard (Mercury)
15\tBAD - Michael Jackson (Epic)
16\tIN THE DARK - The Grateful Dead (Arista)
17\tLOOK WHAT THE CAT DRAGGED IN - Poison (Capitol)
18\tA MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON - Pink Floyd (Columbia)
19\tSOLITUDE STANDING - Suzanne Vega (A&M)
20\tCROWDED HOUSE (Capitol)

Wow. Holy shit, that is some bad music. There are 4 albums in there I would consider worth owning, and no, Bon Jovi isn't one of them.

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You are also wrong about previous decades. In the 60's and 70's - there are countless great albums and a rock and roll history worth of epic bands and artists. When you just look at the 70's alone - in 10 years, look at all the classic rock bands that were born. We are talking like 50+ bands/artists that became rock gods and will be remembered forever. 98% of all music released today, won't be remembered 10 years from now and certainly no one is a rock god so to speak.

98% of all music released in the '60s and '70s isn't remembered today. You're highlighting the best and ignoring the great variety of garbage that has always been released. Seriously, pick a year and go back and look at the best selling albums, and you'll see lots of forgettable garbage.

For example, the best-selling album of 1966 was Whipped Cream & Other Delights, by Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass. A real "rock god" right there.

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I would be curious to hear what bands today you think are so great and will be remembered forever, because we don't have a Zeppelin for this decade and I don't think you can prove me wrong about that no matter how great the music might be by today's standards. By the way, the last two rock bands to truly take on epic status were Guns N' Roses in the late 80's/early 90's and Nirvana for changing the landscape once ruled by hair bands. I certainly hope you don't think those emo rock bands we have today or bands like Arcade Fire fuckin' rock, cause they don't.

You seem to be stuck in a time warp and refuse to acknowledge that music changes over time. There may not be anybody who "rocks" in your sense of the term, but that doesn't mean there aren't bands producing good music, that is listenable and of quality. Just looking at my ipod these are the albums so far from 2010 that I think are really good.

MGMT - Congratulations
Isobel Campbell - Hawk
Blockhead - The Music Scene
Danger Mouse and Sparklehorse - Dark Night of the Soul
Janelle Monae - The ArchAndroid
LCD Soundsystem - This is Happening
Massive Attack - Heligoland
Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
Goldfrapp - Head First
Bonobo - Black Sands
RJD2 - The Colossus
The Roots - Album name is conspicuously absent and I forget what it is

Will they be remembered in the future? WHO THE FUCK CARES? I listen to music because I enjoy it, not because you or somebody else says it's good.

With the incredible variety of music available today there's no excuse for saying you don't like contemporary music. You just can't find what you're looking for because you're too lazy to do so. Stop being a whiny old fuddy-dudd and go find the music you want to listen to.
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post #13 of 106
9/20/10 at 1:09pm
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By the way, the last two rock bands to truly take on epic status were Guns N' Roses in the late 80's/early 90's and Nirvana for changing the landscape once ruled by hair bands. I certainly hope you don't think those emo rock bands we have today or bands like Arcade Fire fuckin' rock, cause they don't.

Disagree.

Metallica is far superior to those bands. Hell, even Megadeth is better than them.
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post #14 of 106
9/20/10 at 1:24pm
the problem i have with stuff from the last decade or so isn't that i don't like it as much as i just haven't found much that i'm inclined to listen to more than a few times at most outside of some stupid hip-hop shit that drops panties.
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post #15 of 106
9/20/10 at 1:35pm
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This is such revisionist history. If you want good music you will ALWAYS have to look hard for it.

(...)With the incredible variety of music available today there's no excuse for saying you don't like contemporary music. You just can't find what you're looking for because you're too lazy to do so. Stop being a whiny old fuddy-dudd and go find the music you want to listen to.

Hmmm, I was all set to agree with Hey Man but you're making me think otherwise.

I will say this, though. I've not heard anything on the radio that I thought was worth stealing, much less worth shelling out lucre for. Perhaps it's time to cast a wider net.
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