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For those who want to discuss Woody Allen's style,
I have started a new thread.
It is called Woody Allen Style: Politics & Geography Forbidden.

Good luck with that.
post #92 of 128
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Good luck with that.

Maybe I should change the title:
Woody Allen Discussion: Politics, Geography & Style Forbidden
post #93 of 128
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There are not only no right-wingers left in Maine, there are no bankers either.

Also, the number of right-wing bankers nationally I would put at less than 50%. Preppy bankers, less than 5%.



Don't they vacation in Maine? And I don't know many lefty bankers. Can you introduce me? I could use a loan.
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Yes, the n-word has also been used for centuries to refer to African Americans. I have no problem with the adjective 'American' (anything else is too contrived and long-winded), but the noun 'America' always makes me think of the ugliest manifestations of bigoted US patriotism.

Goddamn it dude, you fail so much harder in this one passage than I could ever hope to fail in 15 years at StyleForvm and fucking failing is my MO here. Just think about what this means for the rest of your work here. Please for the love of Christ step up your game.

Also great threak. I couldn't have started one this bad if I wanted to.
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Don't they vacation in Maine? And I don't know many lefty bankers. Can you introduce me? I could use a loan.
Madam, my suits is not by glue.
Monsieur, my politics is not by profession.
post #96 of 128
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Don't they vacation in Maine? And I don't know many lefty bankers. Can you introduce me? I could use a loan.

Nearly all of Wall Street is, if not hard left, at least soft lib these days.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articl...ican-oligarchy
post #97 of 128
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You confuse the objects of collegiate dress with the spirit.

Good distinction. I was gesturing at something like it in my previous reply to you. He certainly doesn't have the prep spirit, and that's mostly a good thing to me. But he makes good use of the objects. One thing though: you'll see him wear his tweed coat, cords, and a repp tie at events where most people will be in dark suits. That nonchalance could be reminiscent of prep, though admittedly also of a multitude of other influences.

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If you go back forty years ago, you go back to the trailing end of the widespread influence of collegiate style before it retreated back into its persistent niches. That Allen wore that stuff doesn't make him peculiarly notable.

True. I also guess, though, that I particularly like the fact that he has been wearing the same stuff for fifty years. I like that sort of comfortable assurance. I'm saying that his back-then-not-so-notable style has been retroactively improved by his persistence (an interesting thought, actually). But I also think that his most recent style is perhaps a bit too slobbish. It just happens to many people when they age. It certainly happened to my main style influence, my father (alas).

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There's a big difference between subversive flair that comes from casual disregard of elements within a theme on one hand and being a plain old slob on the other. Allen is the latter.

He's rich and famous. On occasion, they can clean him up.

I suppose in our respective circles the reference of 'slob' is quite different ! But still, I think you could agree that most slobs--even those of his age--are a lot less stylish than him. While he doesn't have the exquisite subversiveness of your madras trousers (or whatever), his indifference to the evolution of fashion is mildly, pleasantly rebellious, if not quite subversive.
post #98 of 128
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Nearly all of Wall Street is, if not hard left, at least soft lib these days.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articl...ican-oligarchy

Interesting article, but are they really libs or just sucking up to the money (which is sort of their jobs)? And to bring this back to clothing, when did bankers stop dressing like bankers? Here in mid-Atlantic America, ehhrr, I mean Estados Unidos, I rarely see one in a suit anymore.
Also, Woody Allen is not my idea of a style icon.
post #99 of 128
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Pedo Putz has made some good flics...I rank him in the top four of pedophiliac directors.


- B

Okay, I'll play: Woody, Polanski, and who are the other 2?
post #100 of 128
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Originally Posted by KObalto View Post
Interesting article, but are they really libs or just sucking up to the money (which is sort of their jobs)? And to bring this back to clothing, when did bankers stop dressing like bankers? Here in mid-Atlantic America, ehhrr, I mean Estados Unidos, I rarely see one in a suit anymore.
Also, Woody Allen is not my idea of a style icon.

On the first point, it's a little of both. I said "soft lib" because bankers -- at least the ones I know somewhat well, in NY and SF -- are culturally very liberal but still believe in free enterprise and capitialism to some degree. However, they are overwhelmingly Democrats.

In New York most of them dress the way you would expect, in dark suits, white FC shirts, Hermes or Feragamo ties, and horse-bit loafers. But close to zero dress prep or anything close.
post #101 of 128
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In New York most of them dress the way you would expect, in dark suits, white FC shirts, Hermes or Feragamo ties, and horse-bit loafers. But close to zero dress prep or anything close.

As a frequent visitor to NYC, I recognize that bankers there still sport suits which is why I mentioned my location. In Baltimore, if you wear a suit, everyone assumes you are a lawyer. I believe this holds true for most of the country now. Am I mistaken? I would like to be.
post #102 of 128
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As a frequent visitor to NYC, I recognize that bankers there still sport suits which is why I mentioned my location. In Baltimore, if you wear a suit, everyone assumes you are a lawyer. I believe this holds true for most of the country now. Am I mistaken? I would like to be.

The upper eschelons of government will be the last redoubt of the suit.

I believe that in New York the banks are more formal than the law firms just now. That could be a function of the times (financial crisis + tarp = everyone dressing circumspect).
post #103 of 128
I agree that his dress is impervious to fashion and personal evolution, but I also think that his dress is impervious to style. For me, the mere quality of imperviousness by itself is insufficient to think of someone as well dressed. For you, it might be more charming. I love seeing old coots Allen's age around here in their old Brooks sacks and bows trodding the Earth as if no time has passed. Those that do almost to a man have a panache, a confidence in dress, completely absent from the sallow, rubbishy look Allen affects. Allen does not have a I do not care look. He has a I gave up look. - B
post #104 of 128
Only in smaller markets (like Baltimore) do you find lawyers who wear suits. I can't name a single large firm in Chicago that still requires a suit. Our firm certainly doesn't require it. The last holdout was Sidley, and I think their last year of requiring a suit was 2000. My good friend was lucky enough to start there in 2000, receive the suit allowance (five or six thousand at the time), and then get a memo saying nobody had to wear suits any more.
post #105 of 128
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
Allen does not have a do not care look. He has a I gave up look.


- B

B, Well put.


If Woody is such a pedo, then why has he stayed with Sun Yi into her 40s?
Would a pedophile do that?



He looks better (but still frumpy) in his movies, and I believe Ralph Lauren has been doing the wardrobe for them since the mid 70s.

I like his regular, frumpy style, but I also consider George Costanza and Larry David personal style icons.
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