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post #16 of 23
I would just use it. I typically take the largest stall anywhere I go. I guess I'm a horrible person, but I don't like trying on clothes or using the bathroom in a cloistered space. I also don't dawdle and if a handicapped person came along and needed it, I'd get out ASAP. I don't know if there is a law about that here, but I've never heard of one, and have been given the handicapped stall before.
post #17 of 23
my 0.02: dgp, some able-bodied people may not be as considerate or as thoughtful as you when it comes to these matters. thing is, the law protects the disabled from people like that, those that might abuse the use of handicapped fitting rooms, as it is for handicapped parking space and handicapped toilet cubicles. there is a senator here in our parts that has this catchy, yet kinda dumb and grammatically incorrect, campaign line: "the law applies to all. or to none at all."
post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by acidicboy
my 0.02:

dgp,
some able-bodied people may not be as considerate or as thoughtful as you when it comes to these matters. thing is, the law protects the disabled from people like that, those that might abuse the use of handicapped fitting rooms, as it is for handicapped parking space and handicapped toilet cubicles.

there is a senator here in our parts that has this catchy, yet kinda dumb and grammatically incorrect, campaign line: "the law applies to all. or to none at all."


But the law is just that handicapped stalls be installed in fitting rooms and bathrooms, and I think that's great. The store chose to take that further. That is what I take issue with.
post #19 of 23
I am inclined to think that public policy is far too overzealous on behalf of the handicapped. I think of a ridiculous case where a strip club was cited for not having wheelchair ramps for any strippers who had to use wheelchairs.

On the matter of reserved parking for the handicapped, obviously there should be some. I think any decent-minded person would be in favor of that. However, invariably far too many spots are allocated for the handicapped. I don't think I have ever been in a parking lot--at least since the passage of the ADA in the early '90s--where all the bloody handicapped spaces have been filled!

I am waiting for the freeways to have preferential traffic lanes for the handicapped! Sad to say, I don't think this is too far-fetched!
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by Get Smart
reminds me of the "Curb your Enthusiasm" episode with Larry, the wheelchair guy, and the handicap bathroom stall with no one in it.

CYE = one of the best shows, ever.

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Originally Posted by JLibourel
I am inclined to think that public policy is far too overzealous on behalf of the handicapped. I think of a ridiculous case where a strip club was cited for not having wheelchair ramps for any strippers who had to use wheelchairs.

HEY! Handicapped girls need to go to college too.
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by DGP
But the law is just that handicapped stalls be installed in fitting rooms and bathrooms, and I think that's great. The store chose to take that further. That is what I take issue with.

And that is their right. They have certain regulations they have to meet for handicapped shoppers. This includes bathroom stalls, fitting rooms, ramps if necessary, elevators, etc.

No, they are not required, by California or Federal law, to keep the fitting room open. However, most stores have this policy. It's a pre-emptive legal strike so to speak. I think you personally overreacted to the situation.

Surely a shopper like you has seen stores have policies that are not required by law. Such as a return policy. The return policy a store creates is entirely up to them. Be it store credit only, credit only in the same fashion as item was paid with, etc. is entirely up to the store. They have certain freedoms over the way in which they sell their merchandise.

Until you have purchased the items from the store, there are certain rules you must follow and adhere to (such as not stealing, etc.). No one forces you to shop there, you make a concious choice to do business there and as such, you should be prepared to follow these procedures.

I can't help but point out the time it took for you to ask for the manager, and then argue with the mananger, surely surpassed the minute you were asked to wait, and more than likely surpassed the 5 minutes you claim would have taken you to try on the garments you were curious about. And for what? To tell them their policy is stupid when you know full-well your unhappiness with said policy is NOT going to change the policy, nor are they going to drop said policy for you. And they should not be expected to.
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by JLibourel
I am inclined to think that public policy is far too overzealous on behalf of the handicapped. I think of a ridiculous case where a strip club was cited for not having wheelchair ramps for any strippers who had to use wheelchairs.





would there be wheelchair access to the stage, too? and are the poles disable-friendly?
post #23 of 23
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Originally Posted by DGP
II decided that I had no desire to buy there because they are retarded.

Much as folks here hate the PC word police, I find this use of "retarded" to be offensive.

As for the number of handicap parking spaces, I am able to find one only about 50% of the time. Before I needed one, I thought there were too many. Now, I must confess, I am irritated by people who want to reduce the number of spaces and infuriated by able bodied people who misuse the spaces. One of my personal favorites is a guy a I saw last week. He had the parking placard in the windshield as he loaded up a handtruck with 8 cases of soda and beer for delivery around the block. At my gym, the management had to put up signs reserving the handicap spaces for physical therapy patients. It seems that more than a few members would park in the spaces before aerobics classes and runs on the treadmill.
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