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how easy (and cheap) is it to build a computer?
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Don't forget the operating system and software in your cost-to-build estimate.Originally Posted by kakemono
The software is a fixed cost regardless of whether I buy a pre-made computer or build one myself. The expensive software will certainly not be an OS, it will be the highly specialized math software. Even the compilers are free (I usually use NetBeans).
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I built a computer a few months ago. The actual building of it is not that complicated and kind of fun, but assembling all the parts (finding best deals) so that you are getting a good value can take some time.... if you want something more for gaming its best to build your own and learn how to do it because your computer will be more customizable down the road and you will know how to upgrade it, but if you are just looking for a general use one then would suggest waiting for a good deal on a Dell/HP/other
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Building a computer is stupid easy. First one I built was about 15 years ago when I was just a wee one, they are easier nowadays. Downside of **** like HPs and Dells is they give you a crap quality mobo most of the time and a Power supply which is barely enough to run the system, let alone a decent graphics card.
If you want to get good/decent components on the cheap look for a barebones set up on ebay or newegg, get a HDD on special off of NE or go PCIE SSD if you got the cash to blow and want super speed.
If you want to get good/decent components on the cheap look for a barebones set up on ebay or newegg, get a HDD on special off of NE or go PCIE SSD if you got the cash to blow and want super speed.
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It turns out dual processor motherboards are still available.
Intel has two motherboards, the S5000xvn and the s5520sc that can take two multicore Xeon processors.
Those boards are about 500 each. Intel also sells a pedestal case with a motherboard and power supply already installed. Those are like 800. I'd just have to plug in some Xeons, memory, video card, and drives.
Is it possible to beat a dual Xeon motherboard, pedestal case (with cooling), and 1000 watt power supply for 800?
What about a complete system to compete at that price?
Intel has two motherboards, the S5000xvn and the s5520sc that can take two multicore Xeon processors.
Those boards are about 500 each. Intel also sells a pedestal case with a motherboard and power supply already installed. Those are like 800. I'd just have to plug in some Xeons, memory, video card, and drives.
Is it possible to beat a dual Xeon motherboard, pedestal case (with cooling), and 1000 watt power supply for 800?
What about a complete system to compete at that price?
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Are they xeon dual cores? Are the programs you are planning on using with it compatible with multi processor setups?
Xeons are decent processors and all, but really they are built more for use in servers than home pcs. Realistically, a Core i7 quad will probably suit your needs at a lower power cost.
Xeons are decent processors and all, but really they are built more for use in servers than home pcs. Realistically, a Core i7 quad will probably suit your needs at a lower power cost.
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The case/motherboard doesn't come with processors. It can support all the latest Xeons. I'm looking at some of the slower quad core Xeons as they are about 250 a piece. I don't need absolute speed so much as I need as many processors as possible.
The software I'll run is highly parallel. I don't have access to the computer cluster at work since this is a project I'm pursuing on my own. Thus, the software will compute on the order of days, instead of hours or minutes as would be the case distributed over an entire cluster.
The software I'll run is highly parallel. I don't have access to the computer cluster at work since this is a project I'm pursuing on my own. Thus, the software will compute on the order of days, instead of hours or minutes as would be the case distributed over an entire cluster.
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A complete Dell workstation is running 2200 with the dual quad core xeons, 2 GB of memory (I have a gut feeling I will need double that) and a pair of 250 GB hard drives.Originally Posted by Milpool
But that memory is crap. There's faster and slower RAM, no matter the amount, you still want to get the fastest there is.
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I could build computers when I was 15 and bored, but nowadays it's just much more cost- and time-effective to buy cheap from Dell outlet and upgrade/replace once in awhile. Computers are so fast now that there's really no appreciable difference in processor power, as long as you have enough RAM. Upgrade the graphics car if you need to.
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