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post #1786 of 4837

I'm talking about utility not looks. If you don't live in an area with snow, you wouldn't know how important winter footware is.
 

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stick with timberlands: serious footwear
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Just wondering: is this normal?.. foo.gif
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Those are not work boots...Are they new a month or two ago?

Interface edge between two different materials cracks is normal due to different rates of thermal expansion.

But the sole is still solid until stiches break. Just keep them away from water and they will be fine.

IMO, American boots (similar price to Tricker's)like White's, Wesco and Canadian Viberg are better for heavy duty.

post #1788 of 4837
- I've worked in my Grensons for four years and they show nothing like this
- two months old, yes
post #1789 of 4837
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Just wondering: is this normal?.. foo.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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no not normal at all, email trickers and where you purchased them.

if this is from regular walking and wear/tear then they should fix, if you were playing soccer thats a diff story
post #1790 of 4837
Normal wear and tear, no excessive abuse. Here are my Grensons, four years old, exàct same kind of wear and (ab)use...

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Contacted BB - thanks for the advice.
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Originally Posted by hc4thehc View Post

Just wondering: is this normal?.. foo.gif
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if you don't mind looks-wise then i wouldn't worry about it, the sole will not split bc the soles are held together by the thread you see at the edge of the boot. this could happen to any pair of boots, if you want to fix it yourself get some shoegoo (yes, it is a real product, search for it in google) and apply some to the gap and it will be filled.
post #1792 of 4837
iroh: don't mind how it looks at all... I'll look up this 'shoegoo', ta!..
post #1793 of 4837
it happenned on my pair of longwings. My local cobbler fixed it for free.
post #1794 of 4837
Occasionally my shoes do that because of the way I walk. I often find myself tripping over something toe first and being a fast walker, that part of the sole inevitably takes a bit of damage. It is easily fixed.
post #1795 of 4837
Thanks guys. I'l ask my local shoecobbler then. I got this email from the Bureau of Belfast though... Talking about impeccable customer service ey!.. smile.gif
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Hi Eli,

Hope you are well?

That is a fault by the looks of it. If you could send them back to us at the address below (let me know the cost and I will reimburse you) and I will organise to have them repaired free of charge for you. Tricker's will put them on the original last and replace the sole unit.

We have been selling Tricker's for over 15 years and we rarely have any problems like this so I hope you understand that this is a fairly isolated incident.

Best regards,

Gareth
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Originally Posted by hc4thehc View Post

Thanks guys. I'l ask my local shoecobbler then. I got this email from the Bureau of Belfast though... Talking about impeccable customer service ey!.. smile.gif
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Hi Eli,
Hope you are well?
That is a fault by the looks of it. If you could send them back to us at the address below (let me know the cost and I will reimburse you) and I will organise to have them repaired free of charge for you. Tricker's will put them on the original last and replace the sole unit.
We have been selling Tricker's for over 15 years and we rarely have any problems like this so I hope you understand that this is a fairly isolated incident.
Best regards,
Gareth

why dont you ask them for a new pair at this point?
post #1797 of 4837

If I may add something here Guys.

UK Shoemakers and Shoe repairers use a Contact Adhesive similar to a UK brand named 'Evo-Stik' to fix Soles in place during manufacture or repair. This would have been used on these boots before the Sole Edge is Rough Trimmed and then Stitched.

I speak from experience as a Shoe Repairer. Contact Adhesive has a 'Open Time' during which it will stick like the proverbial S*@t to a Blanket! If a Sole is attached outside (before or after) of this 'Open Time' it will not have the same Bond Strength. There are also other considerations. Contact Adhesive is applied to both Surfaces which must be clean and 'Scoured' to effect maximum grip for the adhesive.

If the Leather Mid-Sole is not scoured correctly, and perhaps with a worn Scouring Band, it is easy to 'Burn' the leather which effectively 'Seals' the leather surface. This can also affect the Bond strength.

I wouldn't suggest for a moment that Shoemakers would intentionally not follow correct procedure or technique, or indeed that may have been the case with this pair but with the best will in the world, mistakes are made.

This is an easy fix for a competent Shoe Repairer, although it would be important to be able to get as far in as possible to clean the area first. If it could not be cleaned and made good with adhesive, then opening the sole further would be required and Re-Stitching necessary. A replacement Sole could of course be fitted but not really necessary.

 

Whilst there is definitely some substance in Renn suggestion that Thermal Expansion between two different material may have caused the problems, it is highly likely that we as Repairers and Retailers of some of Englands Finest, would see many many more of this type of problem than we already do.

                Just my thoughts Guys ;-)

                              Richard.

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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
If I may add something here Guys.
UK Shoemakers and Shoe repairers use a Contact Adhesive similar to a UK brand named 'Evo-Stik' to fix Soles in place during manufacture or repair. This would have been used on these boots before the Sole Edge is Rough Trimmed and then Stitched.
I speak from experience as a Shoe Repairer. Contact Adhesive has a 'Open Time' during which it will stick like the proverbial [URL=mailto:S*@t]S*@t[/URL] to a Blanket! If a Sole is attached outside (before or after) of this 'Open Time' it will not have the same Bond Strength. There are also other considerations. Contact Adhesive is applied to both Surfaces which must be clean and 'Scoured' to effect maximum grip for the adhesive.
If the Leather Mid-Sole is not scoured correctly, and perhaps with a worn Scouring Band, it is easy to 'Burn' the leather which effectively 'Seals' the leather surface. This can also affect the Bond strength.
I wouldn't suggest for a moment that Shoemakers would intentionally not follow correct procedure or technique, or indeed that may have been the case with this pair but with the best will in the world, mistakes are made.
This is an easy fix for a competent Shoe Repairer, although it would be important to be able to get as far in as possible to clean the area first. If it could not be cleaned and made good with adhesive, then opening the sole further would be required and Re-Stitching necessary. A replacement Sole could of course be fitted but not really necessary.

Whilst there is definitely some substance in Renn suggestion that Thermal Expansion between two different material may have caused the problems, it is highly likely that we as Repairers and Retailers of some of Englands Finest, would see many many more of this type of problem than we already do.
                Just my thoughts Guys ;-)
                              Richard.

Richard is on styleforum, Awesome, Welcome

If you need Trickers, this is the man to work with! (also has many other brands such as AS)
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Richard is on styleforum, Awesome, Welcome
If you need Trickers, this is the man to work with! (also has many other brands such as AS)

+1, Richard is the best. Rare to find someone with such exceptional knowledge and willingness to share it.
post #1800 of 4837

Thank you very much for the warm welcome Guys. I sincerely wish I had more time to spend on here. So many emails, so little time ;-)  You are correct too, I have Tricker's, Alfred Sargent, Church's, Cheaney, Loake, Barker and C&J. It's not always about business though. Always happy to help if I can with any kind of information. info@shoehealer.co.uk Please feel free to ask.

 

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