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Originally Posted by Kashiwa View Post

Thanks Frank. I know that different lasts had been mentioned on here, but couldn't remember which models. Still wondering though about the lasts used for the loafers and camp mocs? Perhaps the camp moc uses the same last as the ranger? Maybe you can investigate further if you make it to PDG?
Bakes11771, thanks for the link. They look quite nice. I saw a Tod's loafer posted a while back on SF (sorry, I can' find the original post), and it looked to have a shorter plug (i.e. the vamp didn't extend all the way to the toe of the shoe. Have you seen anything like that? That is one of the features I like of the Carmina loafer posted above, and something I am hoping Rancourt can do as well.
Wondering if anyone has thoughts on the "English Rolled Moc" style of handsewing vs. the standard toe stitch on Rancourts. Epaulet has recently received some Carmina handsewn loafers with the English Rolled Moc and they are advertising them as the state of the art, especially for suede.
From the EP site:
"we used a "Rolled English Moc" for the toe. A thin strip of suede covers the "butt" seam that you typically see on the top of a penny loafer, giving it a clean and polished look."
http://www.epauletshop.com/servlet/the-1674/Hawthorne-Handsewn-Moc-Snuff/Detail
Thoughts on this feature?

 

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Originally Posted by RobSay24 View Post


Those are beautiful. Any idea if the sole is replacable? If the Venetian/Camp Moc hbrid can come close to that I better start saving for all the colors I have in mind.

 Kashiwa - I'm not sure what you are describing.  If the vamp does not extend all the way to the toe, is it an open-toe shoe?  Can u elaborate?

 

Robsay24 - The sole is replacable but pretty sure you won't be able to find the same exact sole to replace it with.  You could do leather or thin rubber.  I asked Nick V. this question before I bought them.

post #842 of 5247
Back again for sizing advice. General population of owners says TTS would be best but I'm seeing others say sizing down is "OK." I am a 7.5D on the Barrie and 8E on the Van last fits me but it's a little snug at the vamp. Would an 8 be better for me than a 7.5? Looking to pull the trigger on these beefrolls but there's only 8.5 and 7.5
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wow I really like those stitch around strap on that Carmina Hawthorne Mocs from Epaulet. It gives a nice clean look compare to the pinch penny or other machine-stitched half-strap loafers that I have seen.
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post

I noted that sizing advice too, tv2177. Funny, it's almost as if telling people to size down 1/2 is meant to indicate that these are real shoes.
Two thoughts: First, I honestly don't think Rancourts are sized for this kind of fitting advice. It should go without saying that this is a personal opinion, albeit one based on five pairs of the company's shoes. Second, I think that you are much more likely to end up with a pair of unwearable shoes by going down in size. You can, and I do, work with shoes that are slightly too big. Too small is too small.
Of course, the more these shoes are stocked, the more chances people will have to find their size without the risk of an MTO. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by tv2177 View Post

I am with you on that the too small is too small. the fact that more retailers are stocking rancourt certainly gives us a lot of good chances to get first hand knowledge on the sizing before ordering the MTO. Another thing that we will never know w/o asking Kyle is that last that's being used on these other brands or other retailers compare to the MTO lasts. However I do have a feeling that they are on the same last, but I could be very wrong.

I think the advice to size down a half size should at least be followed by the caveat: if you plan to predominantly go sockless. And this advice should perhaps also be limited to the more stretch prone materials (e.g. CXL, suede). Not sure if sizing down a half size is good advice or not, but those two caveats would make it somewhat more reasonable, IMO.

By the way, I don't think Taylor Stitch is actually stocking Rancourt, unfortunately. Looks like you still have to wait 4-6 weeks for your order. Might as well go MTO through Rancourt........

And, you're right, tv2177, sure would like some more detailed last info!
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I recently received a pair of Rancourt camp mocs, after a bit of input from Kyle Rancourt on size (via email). I usually wear a 9, and I ordered a 9. They are snug. If I had gone with 8.5 I wouldn't be able to wear them. If you're thinking about Rancourt, an email to them with some data about your current shoes might be useful.
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Originally Posted by Kashiwa View Post

I think the advice to size down a half size should at least be followed by the caveat: if you plan to predominantly go sockless. And this advice should perhaps also be limited to the more stretch prone materials (e.g. CXL, suede). Not sure if sizing down a half size is good advice or not, but those two caveats would make it somewhat more reasonable, IMO.
By the way, I don't think Taylor Stitch is actually stocking Rancourt, unfortunately. Looks like you still have to wait 4-6 weeks for your order. Might as well go MTO through Rancourt........
And, you're right, tv2177, sure would like some more detailed last info!

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Originally Posted by P Hudson View Post

I recently received a pair of Rancourt camp mocs, after a bit of input from Kyle Rancourt on size (via email). I usually wear a 9, and I ordered a 9. They are snug. If I had gone with 8.5 I wouldn't be able to wear them. If you're thinking about Rancourt, an email to them with some data about your current shoes might be useful.

This is great information, along with PhiPhi's unfortunate experience. Sizing is why I've been reluctant to order, and I haven't found anywhere near me that has them in stock to try on. It sounds like unless you really know what you're doing, better off going true to size.
post #847 of 5247
^^Snug with and without socks? I went TTS and my loafers are very snug with even thin socks. Sockless though and they are just a bit loose (not sure if it is enough to warrant sizing down though).
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I think that is addressed to me, so I'll respond by saying that they are snug even without socks. The first day I went for a 15 minute walk, sockless. The initial reaction is that they fit like a slipper--soft leather, perfectly placed, etc. After 10 minutes the top of my foot was in real pain. The last 5 minutes were mainly on grass so hurt a bit less. The next day the pain was severe (but without blisters) so I put on a pair of thin socks. That helped a bit. Today, I put on a pair of thicker socks and forced my feet in. The pain is diminished, and hopefully they'll stretch just the right amount. Note that I am not talking about the length or width, which I find to be just about perfect (but again, if I had downsized, it would have been a disaster length-wise). I am talking about the area just higher up than the four eyelets that run across the top of the shoe. I even undid the laces to see if that would make it better, but of course they are largely non-functional, the actual fit there being determined by the size and shape of the leather.

Hope that helps. Different people will have different experience. This was mine. My next pair of Rancourts will probably be Ranger Mocs, which, because it has a lacing system, will eliminate this issue.
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^^ Sounds like you've got the right size. Excellent. If they're CXL, they'll certainly stretch out a bit.

Out of curiosity, are handsewns popular in Australia? The only reason I ask is that I just read this article about handsewns in Asia (interview with Kyle and Quoddy), and it stoked my curiosity about the popularity of Maine handsewns round the world.

Market for Maine heritage-brand shoes growing in Asia

http://www.sunjournal.com/news/business/2012/04/10/market-maine-heritage-brand-shoes-growing-asia/1179012
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I'm afraid I couldn't address the popularity of handsewns here. At present, I've noticed, boat shoes are popular. Beyond that, I couldn't say. I make a point of wearing traditional American items, and claim no understanding of Australian "fashion".
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^^ In retrospect, that was a tough question. I'm in Japan, and I don't think I could assess the popularity of handsewns here either. Penny loafers are ubiquitous, and are the foundation of children's school uniforms. But they are machine made, undoubtedly in China. I know that American-made handsewns are well respected by folks interested in heritage-clothing, and they are commonly available in high end shops, but this is only a minuscule fraction of all the loafer and moccasin style shoes being worn in Japan. While loafers seem to be pretty fashionable here at the moment, I think this trend is absent any recognition of the history-geography of handsewn production and any concern over how shoes are being made.

Sorry for the tough question, just find myself, for some reason, curious about the international interest in handsewns.
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Plain toe chukkas are apparently now available for MTO (according to a recent comment by Kyle on FB).

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Not too much into the shape of the toebox, but I am sure there will be others who will rock them.
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I read that article when it first came out and that wasn't too surprise to me because HK and JP is more established than China and Taiwan in the sense of fashion. Korea I do not know so I will not comment on something that I don't know. Moreover, HK was ruled by GB for 99 years so the influence of Western style is definitely there. Japan I believe is one of the biggest Asian country that love and endorse all high-end US made or Europe made fashion designer brand. Only using the word "fashion" to carry out what I am trying to say but the Rancourt's shoes are just classics that will never go out of style.

Interesting I thought that Plain-toe chukka was available for a while? is it a new style?
post #855 of 5247
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Originally Posted by P Hudson View Post

I think that is addressed to me, so I'll respond by saying that they are snug even without socks. The first day I went for a 15 minute walk, sockless. The initial reaction is that they fit like a slipper--soft leather, perfectly placed, etc. After 10 minutes the top of my foot was in real pain. The last 5 minutes were mainly on grass so hurt a bit less. The next day the pain was severe (but without blisters) so I put on a pair of thin socks. That helped a bit. Today, I put on a pair of thicker socks and forced my feet in. The pain is diminished, and hopefully they'll stretch just the right amount. Note that I am not talking about the length or width, which I find to be just about perfect (but again, if I had downsized, it would have been a disaster length-wise). I am talking about the area just higher up than the four eyelets that run across the top of the shoe. I even undid the laces to see if that would make it better, but of course they are largely non-functional, the actual fit there being determined by the size and shape of the leather.
Hope that helps. Different people will have different experience. This was mine. My next pair of Rancourts will probably be Ranger Mocs, which, because it has a lacing system, will eliminate this issue.

Congratulations on your new Rancourts. Post some photos.

Are these camp mocs CXL? If so, they should have a nice amount of give in them. I'd image the other calf/cow leathers Rancourt uses do too. I just don't have experience with them. I hope they mold to fit promptly.
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