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post #7216 of 7404
Sorry, my post wasn't clear with regards to the photo. I just edited it. The shoe on the left is the penny camp sole (Pinch Penny Loafter MTO) and the one on the right is the custom order with Lactae Hevea sole (Custom order). Both ordered and marked as 7D.

Rancourt got back to me - said it's the same last so it should fit the same - they asked me to send it back (with their prepaid label) and they'll inspect it and see what to do next.
post #7217 of 7404
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Originally Posted by makingmark View Post

Sorry, my post wasn't clear with regards to the photo. I just edited it. The shoe on the left is the penny camp sole (Pinch Penny Loafter MTO) and the one on the right is the custom order with Lactae Hevea sole (Custom order). Both ordered and marked as 7D.

Rancourt got back to me - said it's the same last so it should fit the same - they asked me to send it back (with their prepaid label) and they'll inspect it and see what to do next.

That's exactly what they said to me. They stuck it on the last and told me "fits fine". Yours is worse though.
post #7218 of 7404

The most comfortable loafers I own, these even beat out the comfort of my CXL loafers.

 

post #7219 of 7404

Just got my Beefroll Penny Loafers and they're gorgeous. Still a little unsure about the sizing. I ordered them in a 10.5D. They seem just a smidge tight across the middle, which I'm fine with because I know they'll loosen up a bit. However, the seem to slip a decent amount in the heel, particularly when I have them on without socks. For reference, I wear a 10.5E in Allen Edmonds Strands and McCallisters, on their 5 last. I figured I didn't need a wide size because the 5 last is a bit narrow and I knew the loafers would stretch. I'm thinking about ordering a 10D though just to see if that's any better with the heel slippage. Anyone have any thoughts? I did a few searches and I saw a few different people that recommended sizing down a half size from AE.

post #7220 of 7404
Are they too long? If so, order the 10. If not, the 10 will be too short.
post #7221 of 7404
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The most comfortable loafers I own, these even beat out the comfort of my CXL loafers.

 

 

Is having that much room on the sides normal? I wear a 7.5D in the ranger moc, 8D in the camp moc and would like to get a pair of beefrolls. They sent me a 7.5E and 8D of their try on pair loafers when I ordered some of their dress shoes and the 7.5E's looked like that and seemed to fit fine with no slip. Thinking that upping the width compared to the 800 last is the play

post #7222 of 7404
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Originally Posted by roz77 View Post

Just got my Beefroll Penny Loafers and they're gorgeous. Still a little unsure about the sizing. I ordered them in a 10.5D. They seem just a smidge tight across the middle, which I'm fine with because I know they'll loosen up a bit. However, the seem to slip a decent amount in the heel, particularly when I have them on without socks. For reference, I wear a 10.5E in Allen Edmonds Strands and McCallisters, on their 5 last. I figured I didn't need a wide size because the 5 last is a bit narrow and I knew the loafers would stretch. I'm thinking about ordering a 10D though just to see if that's any better with the heel slippage. Anyone have any thoughts? I did a few searches and I saw a few different people that recommended sizing down a half size from AE.

Wow. I guess every foot is different. I am a 10.5E in AE in most of their shoes, including the two you mentioned. 10.5e in rancourt's boat shoe fit me like a chinese concubine. 11e in their beef roll took almost a year to break in! The strap across the top really dug into the top of my foot. I have an 11e blucher on order, I think they will be more forgiving.

It is surprising to me so many people order down in rancourt. I have to order up.
post #7223 of 7404
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Is having that much room on the sides normal? I wear a 7.5D in the ranger moc, 8D in the camp moc and would like to get a pair of beefrolls. They sent me a 7.5E and 8D of their try on pair loafers when I ordered some of their dress shoes and the 7.5E's looked like that and seemed to fit fine with no slip. Thinking that upping the width compared to the 800 last is the play

 

I am about an 8.25D brannock and size 8D was too tight for me so I went with 8.5D and I feel like they fit damn near perfect for a loafer, I would say TTS would be ideal in them. Very comfortable and flexible. 

 

I think the way I am standing shows some extra room on the sides, here is another pic for reference.

 

post #7224 of 7404
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

That's exactly what they said to me. They stuck it on the last and told me "fits fine". Yours is worse though.

So they responded and said it's true to last size. However given that my camp-moc pinch pennies supposedly on same last fit, they offered to re-last it on the 800, saying it's a slightly shorter last. I said ok, go ahead. I figure if that's still no good, I'll put in some tongue pads and worst case just resell them at a loss and try Quoddy next.
post #7225 of 7404
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Originally Posted by roz77 View Post

Just got my Beefroll Penny Loafers and they're gorgeous. Still a little unsure about the sizing. I ordered them in a 10.5D. They seem just a smidge tight across the middle, which I'm fine with because I know they'll loosen up a bit. However, the seem to slip a decent amount in the heel, particularly when I have them on without socks. For reference, I wear a 10.5E in Allen Edmonds Strands and McCallisters, on their 5 last. I figured I didn't need a wide size because the 5 last is a bit narrow and I knew the loafers would stretch. I'm thinking about ordering a 10D though just to see if that's any better with the heel slippage. Anyone have any thoughts? I did a few searches and I saw a few different people that recommended sizing down a half size from AE.

Wow. I guess every foot is different. I am a 10.5E in AE in most of their shoes, including the two you mentioned. 10.5e in rancourt's boat shoe fit me like a chinese concubine. 11e in their beef roll took almost a year to break in! The strap across the top really dug into the top of my foot. I have an 11e blucher on order, I think they will be more forgiving.

It is surprising to me so many people order down in rancourt. I have to order up.

How have your boat shoes broken in? I am finally going to be placing an order for a pair of shell boat shoes...it has been a year in the deciding process between beefrolls and the boat shoe variations. I know shell wont stretch much I am a perfect 13D in Sperry and Sebago boat shoes including Sebago's handsewn in USA line from years ago.

post #7226 of 7404
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Originally Posted by makingmark View Post

So they responded and said it's true to last size. However given that my camp-moc pinch pennies supposedly on same last fit, they offered to re-last it on the 800, saying it's a slightly shorter last. I said ok, go ahead. I figure if that's still no good, I'll put in some tongue pads and worst case just resell them at a loss and try Quoddy next.

Wanted to report a happy resolution - as relasted, the shoes now fit just more snuggly enough to have no heel slip.
post #7227 of 7404
ordered a pair of navy westports. crossing my fingers they fit me. sometimes a 10.5 is a tad large for me and sometimes it works and they were out of 10's
post #7228 of 7404
I picked up some Navy too. I'm pretty excited, I've been wanting a quality venetian style Rancourt like they have over at BB for some time now. I noticed Kennedy wearing some and it's been in the back of my head ever since. Hope I can pull them off! The white sole looks fun to me.
post #7229 of 7404
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

How have your boat shoes broken in? I am finally going to be placing an order for a pair of shell boat shoes...it has been a year in the deciding process between beefrolls and the boat shoe variations. I know shell wont stretch much I am a perfect 13D in Sperry and Sebago boat shoes including Sebago's handsewn in USA line from years ago.

My boat shoes are two years old. they never really stretched enough, certainly not enough that I can comfortably wear them for more than an hour or two. I just wear them for chores around the yard now. They are literally $350 lawn mowing shoes. YMMV. The bluchers in 11e are a good fit. I measure 10.d on a brannuck but have a high instep.
post #7230 of 7404
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

How have your boat shoes broken in? I am finally going to be placing an order for a pair of shell boat shoes...it has been a year in the deciding process between beefrolls and the boat shoe variations. I know shell wont stretch much I am a perfect 13D in Sperry and Sebago boat shoes including Sebago's handsewn in USA line from years ago.

My boat shoes are two years old. they never really stretched enough, certainly not enough that I can comfortably wear them for more than an hour or two. I just wear them for chores around the yard now. They are literally $350 lawn mowing shoes. YMMV. The bluchers in 11e are a good fit. I measure 10.d on a brannuck but have a high instep.

Thanks...I am going to order the below pair from Brooks Brothers to see how they fit...the MTO fitting pair was more of a venetian loafer beefroll style they sent to try on and not a boat shoe..so curious to see how the brooks brothers boat shoe fits plus I have always liked the style with the canvas...just not at full price...worked out that it was on sale so if it fits, I keep it and then order my mto.

 

 

I am sort of shocked at the limited stock selection of boat shoes on Rancourts site - they have the promo picture for boat shoes in beautiful leather combo's then just bland offerings.

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