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Anyone into the Court Classic sneakers? We've got something Natural on the horizon...
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I'm sure a lot of people have asked questions about sizing, but how do Rancourt beefroll CXL loafers compare with OSB loafer sizing?

FWIW an 8.5D fits me very well in OSB, although I'm usually a 9E in most dress shoes (majority are Allen Edmonds). I would like to find a pair of Rancourt loafers that fit very similarly to my OSBs. Any experience with the two?
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Rancourt x PDG olive bison ranger mocs.
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I'm sure it's been discussed multiple times in this thread, but I didn't find the answer I was looking for after a brief search.

I have two pairs of Rancourts (one Chromexel penny loafer and one cordovan venetian loafer) that are about ready for a resole. Is it recommended to send back to Rancourt or is it OK to use a reputable local cobbler? I don't want to void the possibility of my having a recraft (or, what they call a premium refurbish) done later if they won't work on shoes that have been resoled by non-Rancourt personnel.

If my best course of action is to go through Rancourt, is there someone there I need to contact?
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Originally Posted by southbound35 View Post

I'm sure it's been discussed multiple times in this thread, but I didn't find the answer I was looking for after a brief search.

I have two pairs of Rancourts (one Chromexel penny loafer and one cordovan venetian loafer) that are about ready for a resole. Is it recommended to send back to Rancourt or is it OK to use a reputable local cobbler? I don't want to void the possibility of my having a recraft (or, what they call a premium refurbish) done later if they won't work on shoes that have been resoled by non-Rancourt personnel.

If my best course of action is to go through Rancourt, is there someone there I need to contact?

 

Go through Rancourt, one of the best recrafting services out there

 

http://www.rancourtandcompany.com/accessories/shoe-care/refurbish.html

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Anyone give any advice on the 114 last for sizing..I have done the made to order program and honestly did not get a great fit with the sizes selected - will be wrn sockless

below are some of my other sizes for reference

Alden Barrie 12D(12.5 also works)

Alden Trubalance 12D(12.5 also works)

Alden Aberdeen 13D

Viberg I am a 12 across all lasts

AE 511 12eee or 13e

AE 65 12e for blucher and 12eee for closed lace(bals)

AE B64 size 12

 

These need to be ordered! I have a pair of mini lugged CXL beefrolls in darker brown that are dare I say starting to pas my boat shoes in wearing. 

 

post #7117 of 7404
That's a tough sizing chart to untangle, mostly because you have so few wide sizes, except for the Allen Edmonds. the 12EEE 65 last balmoral and 12E Blucher make me think you should be wearing 12E or 12.5E Barrie and TruBalances, and that you might be having major pinky-toe pinch at a D width. I'd also expect you to be wearing a 12.5 or 13 in Vibergs.

That said, I think a 12.5 E on the 114 is how I'd size, or a 13D.
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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

Anyone give any advice on the 114 last for sizing..I have done the made to order program and honestly did not get a great fit with the sizes selected - will be wrn sockless
below are some of my other sizes for reference
Alden Barrie 12D(12.5 also works)
Alden Trubalance 12D(12.5 also works)
Alden Aberdeen 13D
Viberg I am a 12 across all lasts
AE 511 12eee or 13e
AE 65 12e for blucher and 12eee for closed lace(bals)
AE B64 size 12

These need to be ordered! I have a pair of mini lugged CXL beefrolls in darker brown that are dare I say starting to pas my boat shoes in wearing. 
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What sizes did you try the made to fit? And where/why was the fit not great?
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Originally Posted by wdahab View Post

That's a tough sizing chart to untangle, mostly because you have so few wide sizes, except for the Allen Edmonds. the 12EEE 65 last balmoral and 12E Blucher make me think you should be wearing 12E or 12.5E Barrie and TruBalances, and that you might be having major pinky-toe pinch at a D width. I'd also expect you to be wearing a 12.5 or 13 in Vibergs.

That said, I think a 12.5 E on the 114 is how I'd size, or a 13D.

 

Thanks! I appreicate the great feedback. I measure a 13e and no pinky toe pinching at all in the Aldens or Vibergs...just the shape of my feet I guess which is probably what lets me get away with varied sizing. I know in the Viberg 2030 many complain of toe pinching when using barie size but for me it works perfect. 13 in Viberg I have tried and is too big unless I am wearing a really thick boot sock.

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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

Anyone give any advice on the 114 last for sizing..I have done the made to order program and honestly did not get a great fit with the sizes selected - will be wrn sockless
below are some of my other sizes for reference
Alden Barrie 12D(12.5 also works)
Alden Trubalance 12D(12.5 also works)
Alden Aberdeen 13D
Viberg I am a 12 across all lasts
AE 511 12eee or 13e
AE 65 12e for blucher and 12eee for closed lace(bals)
AE B64 size 12

These need to be ordered! I have a pair of mini lugged CXL beefrolls in darker brown that are dare I say starting to pas my boat shoes in wearing.  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

What sizes did you try the made to fit? And where/why was the fit not great?

 

I just went and found the post I made in July as I honestly could not remember...since they do not offer 12.5 it makes it tough...Also I got the PDG Olive Buffalo Ranger Mocin 13D and that is a touch loose though lacing and sock adjustments make it work really well.

 

"got the samples in to try on a 12E and 13D both fit equal in opposite directions...lol the 13D with some heel slippage and the 12E snug all the way around. guessing the 12.5 E will be the way to go..but that is not offered on the site. Would probably lean towards the 12E"

 

 

I am still thinking of having the below built in shell once I dial sizing in(i had it ordered then cancelled before production due to fit concern)

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Originally Posted by Kahuna75 View Post

I just went and found the post I made in July as I honestly could not remember...since they do not offer 12.5 it makes it tough...Also I got the PDG Olive Buffalo Ranger Mocin 13D and that is a touch loose though lacing and sock adjustments make it work really well.

"got the samples in to try on a 12E and 13D both fit equal in opposite directions...lol the 13D with some heel slippage and the 12E snug all the way around. guessing the 12.5 E will be the way to go..but that is not offered on the site. Would probably lean towards the 12E"


I am still thinking of having the below built in shell once I dial sizing in(i had it ordered then cancelled before production due to fit concern) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


That's a nice looking makeup.

And that's tough when they can't offer the half size you need.

Snug all the way round may be the better course, since you will get some stretch and give, though that varies depending on the leather and the presence or absence of lining. Especially to wear without socks.

My personal experience: I've decided that I'm an 11E in Rancourt handsewns. I did give 11D a try and found that it never quite stretched out enough to be really comfortable. It's close, and it might work with the stretch in CXL, for example, but there just doesn't end up being enough room at the end of the day.

You may just want to pick a size and give it a long-term trial/test this spring and summer. I've found really wearing a pair of shoes is the best way to decide if a size and last works. There's a cost, but it's cheaper and less disappointing than ordering a custom shell makeup and then finding out it doesn't work the way you'd hoped.
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Kahana, we're your toes pushed into the end of the shoe in 12E? If not, maybe try EE?
post #7123 of 7404
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Originally Posted by fairlynerdy View Post

Kahana, we're your toes pushed into the end of the shoe in 12E? If not, maybe try EE?

Good point. And also worth noting that I don't think you need a lot of room in front of your toes with handsewns. A pencil's width is about all.
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Kahana, we're your toes pushed into the end of the shoe in 12E? If not, maybe try EE?

Good point. And also worth noting that I don't think you need a lot of room in front of your toes with handsewns. A pencil's width is about all.

 

I think my toes in the front were ok from what I recall..my concern with EE would be heel slip but I guess as @FrankCowperwood mentioned better to find out with a non shell pair. Thanks for the advice, I will give the EE a try.

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Just arrived :slayer:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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