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Merry Christmas, Frank.

I like those long-needled Xmas Trees.  Never had one because everyone else always insists on the short-needle.

Thank you, Bakes. Hope you had a merry one as well. I like these. Just a white pine, I believe. We went out to a place and cut it down ourselves. Seems like we always had the short needle kind when I was a kid, though.
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I received a $300 Rancourt gift card for Christmas (best present ever!) and am trying to decide between some Blake boots or Ranger Mocs.  I really need a great pair of boots and I was planning on getting some Wolvering 1000 Mile boots but the Brown and Color 8 Blake boots look ultra-premium and have a better sole for the icy New England sidewalks and roads.  Can anyone comment on the fit compared to the 1000 Mile boot?

 

On the other hand the Ranger Mocs look like the absolute perfect year-round shoe for all situations...decisions, decisions!

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Originally Posted by aphelan View Post

I received a $300 Rancourt gift card for Christmas (best present ever!) and am trying to decide between some Blake boots or Ranger Mocs.  I really need a great pair of boots and I was planning on getting some Wolvering 1000 Mile boots but the Brown and Color 8 Blake boots look ultra-premium and have a better sole for the icy New England sidewalks and roads.  Can anyone comment on the fit compared to the 1000 Mile boot?

On the other hand the Ranger Mocs look like the absolute perfect year-round shoe for all situations...decisions, decisions!

I'd do a Color 8 CXL Blake with a Tempest sole.
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I'd do a Color 8 CXL Blake with a Tempest sole.

Thanks for the advice!  Can you only get the Tempest sole with a custom made order or can I request it on the MTO Color 8 CXL?

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I like using Saphir cordovan cream.


I do as well. The Reno tends to dry things out, where the cordovan cream adds a bit of luster and moisturizes the leather better.

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Originally Posted by aphelan View Post
 

I received a $300 Rancourt gift card for Christmas (best present ever!) and am trying to decide between some Blake boots or Ranger Mocs.  I really need a great pair of boots and I was planning on getting some Wolvering 1000 Mile boots but the Brown and Color 8 Blake boots look ultra-premium and have a better sole for the icy New England sidewalks and roads.  Can anyone comment on the fit compared to the 1000 Mile boot?

 

On the other hand the Ranger Mocs look like the absolute perfect year-round shoe for all situations...decisions, decisions!

Personally I don't think the Wolverine 1000 Mile Boot is the best option for winter weather. I own a pair and they are fairly thin leather boots with a leather sole.

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Originally Posted by aphelan View Post
 

Thanks for the advice!  Can you only get the Tempest sole with a custom made order or can I request it on the MTO Color 8 CXL?


Before the custom tool was available that's how I made modifications. There was a note section if I remember correctly when submitting your order. You could always email their customer support email address using the order number in the subject line and request additional modifications. Another option would be just to call their customer support line and speak with them directly in regards to what you want.

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They had been adding a up-charge for changes to the MTO selection. Those shoes are probably better called made on demand,
since they prefer to keep the details fixed.

You might be better off just going with the custom tool and building the exact boots you want. Maybe consider then Montello mini lug for winter.

And I agree with @dddrees about the suitability of the 1000 Mile as a winter boot.
Edited by FrankCowperwood - 12/26/13 at 9:34pm
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I also have had good experience using saphir neutral cordovan cream to add moisture as a remedy for Rancourts comparatively dry shell.

 

I too encourage you to consider the mini-lug.

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Hey guys I was really searching for some rare shell colors and came across the rancourt mto. I would really like to get some caramel or espresso shell and was wondering if rancourt waives the MTO fee like allen edmonds does. If they do I would be first in line for some rancourts.

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Originally Posted by movoblast View Post
 

Hey guys I was really searching for some rare shell colors and came across the rancourt mto. I would really like to get some caramel or espresso shell and was wondering if rancourt waives the MTO fee like allen edmonds does. If they do I would be first in line for some rancourts.


Unlike other shoe makers Rancourt doesn't charge a MTO fee. Or at least they don't state they charge more for a MTO pair of shoes or boots vs. a RTW pair. In fact if you compare some of their RTW to some of their MTO pairs of shoes or boots they are the same price.

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MTO vs. Custom is a point of confusion on SF sometimes. MTO (made-to-order) is when they have designed models that don't get made until you order them. Custom is when you get to specify your order's details.

Rancourt offers pre-made, MTO, and custom. MTO are what you see on their website fully fleshed-out and the same price as pre-made. They are about $50 or so cheaper than if you ordered the exact same model as a custom order. However, once you jump to a custom order, you can flesh it out however you want, change the eyelets, change the lining color, mix/match colors of shell, anything where they have the materials. At that point, they only charge a little bit more if there's a difference in material cost. There's also a difference in returns/exchanges, because Rancourt can kind-of assume that with MTO, someone will order that same pair of shoes in your size at some point, and with ready-made they can be really sure. They can't assume that with custom.

What Allen Edmonds offers with their SF discount is custom shoes, you can get your shoes done however you want, without the usual custom order charge (so instead of $595 for shell + $150, it's just $595). On top of that, they don't charge any extra if there's a difference in material cost. So, you can order to your heart's content premium linings, double JR soles, different stitching, etc. AE also offers pre-made (of course) and MTO (sometimes you see that a model will be shipped to you in 3-6 weeks). And, the real kicker is that when they have a company-wide sale (like RDA 15% off) it will stack on the SF discount.

While I'm at it, Quoddy is often brought up. Quoddy *only* offers custom shoes to individuals, though they offer suggestions that make it seem like you are ordering MTO. If you call up Quoddy, they will make any alteration that is possible, at no extra charge. For example, I got a pair of camp mocs that shouldn't have come with a saddle with a special very interesting saddle put on, at no extra charge.

For what it's worth, I've used all these services. I have one custom CXL Rancourt boat shoes (three eyelets, back when MTO and Custom were the same price), one MTO CXL Rancourt ranger, one MTO shell Rancourt beefroll, and one Custom shell Rancourt ranger. I also have 2 custom shell AEs on their way. And I have 1 custom chromepack Quoddy. In my experience, all three have been excellent at helping me design my shoes.
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Thanks for taking the time and explaining this in such great detail. My apologizes if I got this wrong, but I had never noticed a price difference between MTO and Custom made shoes. I guess I just never compared the prices close enough.

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Just wanted to follow up with what I ended up ordering:

 

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Natural CXL 4-eye ranger moc

RLH sole

Black eyelets, laces and midsole

Unlined

 

Thanks to everyone for their help. I'll post pics when they arrive!

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^^ Nice make up!
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