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MTO ranger mocs came in today. I'm very happy with the results. Can't wait to break them in.

 

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Originally Posted by agnyc View Post
 

MTO ranger mocs came in today. I'm very happy with the results. Can't wait to break them in.

 

How do you like the crepe sole on the rangers? I have rangers with camp moc sole but I'm considering getting crepe. My fear is that they will not be as comfortable because of the hard leather midsole. What are you opinions?

post #3393 of 5502
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Originally Posted by agnyc View Post
 

MTO ranger mocs came in today. I'm very happy with the results. Can't wait to break them in.

 

 

Looks like you went with the cinnamon laces?  Nice touch!

 

Is that tan bulldog leather?

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Originally Posted by TauKappaEpsilon View Post
 

How do you like the crepe sole on the rangers? I have rangers with camp moc sole but I'm considering getting crepe. My fear is that they will not be as comfortable because of the hard leather midsole. What are you opinions?

I have boat shoes with boat sole and rangers with apsen (and leather midsole).  The aspen, even with the leather midsole is about 10x squishier than the hard rubber of the boat sole.  Honestly, I can't even feel the leather midsole, just the squishy latex.  The leather midsole must look a lot harder than it is.  Not sure I would call it hard at all.

post #3394 of 5502
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post #3395 of 5502
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Looks like you went with the cinnamon laces?  Nice touch!

Is that tan bulldog leather?
I have boat shoes with boat sole and rangers with apsen (and leather midsole).  The aspen, even with the leather midsole is about 10x squishier than the hard rubber of the boat sole.  Honestly, I can't even feel the leather midsole, just the squishy latex.  The leather midsole must look a lot harder than it is.  Not sure I would call it hard at all.

Exactly what I would say. The crepe and the RLH soles are very comfortable. There's no sense of that leather midsole at all when you wear them.
post #3396 of 5502
Sizing question

Have been wearing my unlined CXL Venetians on boat sole for 2 weeks now. After a few days breaking them in they fit like gloves. I ordered 0,5 size or so too small, based on an earlier recommendation of the salesman of my Timberland 3 eyelet CXL boats (out of stock for years now, only available in 2 eyelet). Those have been my favorite shoes for more more than 10 years and made me get used to the flexibility of the CXL leather and to all (!) toes just touching the front of the toe box. The shape of the Venetian molds very nicely to the foot and I experience no heel slippage (wearing them sockless only).

Now for my planned next order, unlined shell camp mocs, I have the following questions:

1) Have no experience with unlined shell, but expect shell to be less flexible and stretchy compared to CXL, is that right? Or just a bit longer break-in?

2) Will wear the camp mocs also sockless, but am thinking to order 0,5 or even 1 size larger than my Venetians, depending on the feedback on my first question. This will result in "normal" room in the toe box, however will also result in additional width according to Rancourt's sizing chart: W7 changes to W8 for 10D and above (now wearing 9,5D left and 9D right)
Therefore these size-10s will probably need to be at B width; W6 (!) on the sizing chart, which again might be too narrow.
The question now is: how to assess the risk of B size being too narrow / the instep being too low? (live outside US, so Made to Fit service not available).

Thanks in advance for sharing your sizing and CXL vs shell experiences.
post #3397 of 5502
This is my first experience with them and they seem super comfy. I've had lactea and didn't live them. I have vibram' sand love them. I'd say it's kinda in between.
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Originally Posted by TauKappaEpsilon View Post

How do you like the crepe sole on the rangers? I have rangers with camp moc sole but I'm considering getting crepe. My fear is that they will not be as comfortable because of the hard leather midsole. What are you opinions?
post #3398 of 5502
Thanks. I'm actually thing about trying some work boot laces.

As for the leather... It's "plainsman brown" CXL with a brown CXL mudguard. I was originally looking for tan but I wanted the same leather, different color.
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Looks like you went with the cinnamon laces?  Nice touch!

Is that tan bulldog leather?
I have boat shoes with boat sole and rangers with apsen (and leather midsole).  The aspen, even with the leather midsole is about 10x squishier than the hard rubber of the boat sole.  Honestly, I can't even feel the leather midsole, just the squishy latex.  The leather midsole must look a lot harder than it is.  Not sure I would call it hard at all.
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Originally Posted by agnyc View Post

MTO ranger mocs came in today. I'm very happy with the results. Can't wait to break them in.
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These look great BTW. That extra piece of leather around the shoe above the midsole is an different feature. Is that what's called a mud guard?

Edit: Sorry I see you just explained this. Looks great.
post #3400 of 5502
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post

These look great BTW. That extra piece of leather around the shoe above the midsole is an different feature. Is that what's called a mud guard?

Edit: Sorry I see you just explained this. Looks great.

Thank you! Love the mudguard. I wanted to do something two-tone but not on the upper Rancourt was more than helpful picking something out and they said the mudguard was "no problem".
post #3401 of 5502
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Originally Posted by agnyc View Post

Thanks. I'm actually thing about trying some work boot laces.

As for the leather... It's "plainsman brown" CXL with a brown CXL mudguard. I was originally looking for tan but I wanted the same leather, different color.

I thought it looked 2 toned, but wasn't sure.  Plainsman brown, CXL.  Not sure if I've seen anyone post pics of that in the thread before, but recall seeing it on their instagram or website now that you bring it back in to my mind.  Something to remember for the future.  Tying not to buy any more shoes, but am thinking about some White's semi-dress boots, and Plainsman CXL would be a good option if they can do it.

 

What about the RLH didn't you like?  Too unstable/wobbly feeling?

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I was tiring to not buy any more shoes either. I have too many Rancourts now.

I love those White's boots as well and I think they would look slick in plainsman. It's kinda similar to natural cxl but with a bit more of a yellow/red tone.

Yeah the RLH were too unstable feeling for me. The crepe sole seems to not bother me as much.

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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

I thought it looked 2 toned, but wasn't sure.  Plainsman brown, CXL.  Not sure if I've seen anyone post pics of that in the thread before, but recall seeing it on their instagram or website now that you bring it back in to my mind.  Something to remember for the future.  Tying not to buy any more shoes, but am thinking about some White's semi-dress boots, and Plainsman CXLoo would be a good option if they can do it.

What about the RLH didn't you like?  Too unstable/wobbly feeling?
post #3403 of 5502
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Originally Posted by NilsXV View Post

Sizing question

Have been wearing my unlined CXL Venetians on boat sole for 2 weeks now. After a few days breaking them in they fit like gloves. I ordered 0,5 size or so too small, based on an earlier recommendation of the salesman of my Timberland 3 eyelet CXL boats (out of stock for years now, only available in 2 eyelet). Those have been my favorite shoes for more more than 10 years and made me get used to the flexibility of the CXL leather and to all (!) toes just touching the front of the toe box. The shape of the Venetian molds very nicely to the foot and I experience no heel slippage (wearing them sockless only).

Now for my planned next order, unlined shell camp mocs, I have the following questions:

1) Have no experience with unlined shell, but expect shell to be less flexible and stretchy compared to CXL, is that right? Or just a bit longer break-in?

2) Will wear the camp mocs also sockless, but am thinking to order 0,5 or even 1 size larger than my Venetians, depending on the feedback on my first question. This will result in "normal" room in the toe box, however will also result in additional width according to Rancourt's sizing chart: W7 changes to W8 for 10D and above (now wearing 9,5D left and 9D right)
Therefore these size-10s will probably need to be at B width; W6 (!) on the sizing chart, which again might be too narrow.
The question now is: how to assess the risk of B size being too narrow / the instep being too low? (live outside US, so Made to Fit service not available).

Thanks in advance for sharing your sizing and CXL vs shell experiences.

Rancourt gets this question quite a bit. Their response is that you should order the same size shoe, in shell or CXL. I take this to mean that they make the CXL models a little more snug initially, since it's going to stretch. My CXL beefrolls have stretched a lot since I got them,

Honestly, if your feet are bashing the front of the toe box on the venetians, you should go a half size up. At least the camp mocs have a little more leeway with the lacing.
post #3404 of 5502
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Originally Posted by NilsXV View Post

Sizing question

Have been wearing my unlined CXL Venetians on boat sole for 2 weeks now. After a few days breaking them in they fit like gloves. I ordered 0,5 size or so too small, based on an earlier recommendation of the salesman of my Timberland 3 eyelet CXL boats (out of stock for years now, only available in 2 eyelet). Those have been my favorite shoes for more more than 10 years and made me get used to the flexibility of the CXL leather and to all (!) toes just touching the front of the toe box. The shape of the Venetian molds very nicely to the foot and I experience no heel slippage (wearing them sockless only).

Now for my planned next order, unlined shell camp mocs, I have the following questions:

1) Have no experience with unlined shell, but expect shell to be less flexible and stretchy compared to CXL, is that right? Or just a bit longer break-in?

2) Will wear the camp mocs also sockless, but am thinking to order 0,5 or even 1 size larger than my Venetians, depending on the feedback on my first question. This will result in "normal" room in the toe box, however will also result in additional width according to Rancourt's sizing chart: W7 changes to W8 for 10D and above (now wearing 9,5D left and 9D right)
Therefore these size-10s will probably need to be at B width; W6 (!) on the sizing chart, which again might be too narrow.
The question now is: how to assess the risk of B size being too narrow / the instep being too low? (live outside US, so Made to Fit service not available).

Thanks in advance for sharing your sizing and CXL vs shell experiences.

Rancourt gets this question quite a bit. Their response is that you should order the same size shoe, in shell or CXL. I take this to mean that they make the CXL models a little more snug initially, since it's going to stretch. My CXL beefrolls have stretched a lot since I got them,

Honestly, if your feet are bashing the front of the toe box on the venetians, you should go a half size up. At least the camp mocs have a little more leeway with the lacing.
post #3405 of 5502
Thanks GooseG! I was thinking along these lines, but hesitating and will now follow your advice. My worry is that a larger size will be too wide, while my current width fits perfectly, could be even a little bit more narrow. In order to tests sizing further before taking the shell plunge I have decided to buy a pair of 2 eyelet suede chukka's first (was planning to buy them anyway) in 1 full size larger, but B size in stead of my current D. According to general sizing charts on the web these should be about 1/16" less wide while 0,5 size larger B's may be too narrow with 3/16" less width.
Thanks again and will let you know how it works out.
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