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post #2956 of 4922
Scrolled thru my texts and came up with this pic. A buddy of mine ordered some ready made Beefrolls from Rancourt a couple weeks ago. Boxstitch present...
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This is how OSB does theirs. You can see that it differs from Rancourt's, in that the stitch is closer to the beefroll, farther from the slots. In your friends, you can see it's almost right next to the slot, far away from the beefroll. With my order being an extra-wide, the gap could be even bigger. If it's like OSBs, I could overlook it, it's subtle and matches the aesthetic of the beefroll. If it's like these pictures, though, it's like the box is the most important part of the shoe, a big square in the middle of the saddle. I just don't get it.
post #2958 of 4922
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This is how OSB does theirs. You can see that it differs from Rancourt's, in that the stitch is closer to the beefroll, farther from the slots. In your friends, you can see it's almost right next to the slot, far away from the beefroll. With my order being an extra-wide, the gap could be even bigger. If it's like OSBs, I could overlook it, it's subtle and matches the aesthetic of the beefroll. If it's like these pictures, though, it's like the box is the most important part of the shoe, a big square in the middle of the saddle. I just don't get it.

Yep. I was just comparing to OSB. Their way is the lesser of two evils, but my R&Co. beefrolls without the stitching at all is the preferred way for me. I wonder what would prompt them to change that? On mine, they are stitched all the way across the saddle, through the roll.

post #2959 of 4922


Katie sent me a picture nice and promptly! Here they are and boy, am I glad I caught this in time. That is just... I don't know what they're thinking. She said it's no problem, they'll redo the saddle if that's what I want, which is what I definitely want. Looks like I caught it before they put on the sole, thank goodness. I mean, look how it angles away from the beefroll, and isn't quite symmetric. Other than that, they're quite pretty, and can't wait to get them.
post #2960 of 4922
I agree that I prefer the saddle without a box stitch. And I also agree that it is hard to understand what the purpose of this new design element is. Particularly if OSB already does it. Rancourt should do something different. It hardly seems as if a box stitch is a distinguishing mark of skill, particularly when it looks a little wonky like this one.

Glad you'll get your $600 loafers the way you want them. smile.gif
post #2961 of 4922
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Katie sent me a picture nice and promptly! Here they are and boy, am I glad I caught this in time. That is just... I don't know what they're thinking. She said it's no problem, they'll redo the saddle if that's what I want, which is what I definitely want. Looks like I caught it before they put on the sole, thank goodness. I mean, look how it angles away from the beefroll, and isn't quite symmetric. Other than that, they're quite pretty, and can't wait to get them.

Wow. Just wow! I am glad you caught that in time, too. There is just no way to make a straight line of stitching pretty in that area. That totally ruins that loafer.

post #2962 of 4922
They say its because the run off seam has had fraying problems. Frankly since I beat up my shells for fun, fraying isn't an issue since I won't mind my cobbler stitching it back in. Itll just be patina. But the box stitch is permanent. I think its a bad tradeoff. I guess I'll have to live with some extra holes in the plug if they reuse it but, okay. It's better than extra holes in the vamp from a new sole. Hopefully they can redo the hand stitch without messing it up.
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Can you clarify what you mean by run off seam?

post #2964 of 4922
Haven't noticed any fraying on my shell beefrolls. Whatever the runoff stitch is... Oh well, probably not in market for a new pair in this style anytime soon anyway.
post #2965 of 4922
The seam goes from one end of the saddle, then onto where the saddle meets the plug, across and then just on the saddle again I guess that fraying must occur where the two meet. Perhaps folks should tweet to Rancourt that they don't like it. A lot of people won't care so they might not realize their fans do care.

Full disclosure, I paid $460 not $600 for these. I was given the current custom sale price since I would have ordered with that tool but it didn't exist until a few days after I placed my order.
post #2966 of 4922

I have a feeling that they mean the stitch frays where it goes over the roll, maybe. Like in the pic of mine, the stitch goes over the beefroll. They new stitch does not do that. That would eliminate that problem area if that's where the problem is.

post #2967 of 4922
According to Katie, until the pictures on the site change, it is no custom fee to get the old style of stitch. You just have to ask. After the photos change it will be only as part of custom orders.
post #2968 of 4922
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According to Katie, until the pictures on the site change, it is no custom fee to get the old style of stitch. You just have to ask. After the photos change it will be only as part of custom orders.
UGH.
post #2969 of 4922
Agree on NOT liking the box stitch. Wish she would promptly return my email from over a week ago.
post #2970 of 4922
Well they're shipping and on their way to me now. smile.gif Looking super forward to them, even though loafer season is about over (though I can wear 'em with socks in the fall, so not too upset about that).

Also, with 2 weeks left until my ranger mocs ship, anyone have good patina'd #8 shell ranger pics? I love how my cxl rangers have patina'd, but really looking forward to getting them in shell cordovan.
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