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post #2656 of 5327
You almost wonder if the major value of the MTO exercise for them was building the Rancourt brand name so that it's more desirable for cobranded offerings with BB et al. That's likely a better business to be in than selling one-offs to guys specifying thread color... smile.gif
post #2657 of 5327
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post

You almost wonder if the major value of the MTO exercise for them was building the Rancourt brand name so that it's more desirable for cobranded offerings with BB et al. That's likely a better business to be in than selling one-offs to guys specifying thread color... smile.gif

If they build the cobranding more, I really hope they start offering widths as well, like AE for BB does. You get the BB sales, but can get wide sizes. Right now, for me wanting wide sizes, MTO is the only way to go
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These are about 3 years old. They look a fair bit lighter outside in sunlight but I hope this helps


Very nice!!!

What are you treating them with?

I just recently coated my dark brown ranger mocs with snow seal because they were getting really dry despite using Allen edmonds shoe conditioner on a regular basis.
post #2659 of 5327
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Very nice!!!

What are you treating them with?

I just recently coated my dark brown ranger mocs with snow seal because they were getting really dry despite using Allen edmonds shoe conditioner on a regular basis.

Not but brushing and some very occasionally used Renovateur

post #2660 of 5327
Frankly it's still a lucrative program. People understand the value of being able to get whatever they want. whats an extra couple bucks for a shoe thats going to hold up for a decade or two? I think part of it is also normalizing the way things work across the board for them.

when the McNairy bucks first came out people were paying what was essentially a 33% upcharge on sanders for the ability to get something a bit unique. with Rancourt its something more like 15% (debatable) and you can get something as unique as you want it to be.

that being said, if you guys want to organize a hivemind styleforum makeup some time I could probably facilitate it. we would need a volume, but it would cost less than my current MTO prices (and frankly i like any excuse to cook up new footwear)

alternatively, our summer offerings are pretty unique and the stock sole type shoes both dial in at 230USD wink.gif
post #2661 of 5327
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Originally Posted by Portland Dry Goods View Post

Frankly it's still a lucrative program. People understand the value of being able to get whatever they want. whats an extra couple bucks for a shoe thats going to hold up for a decade or two? I think part of it is also normalizing the way things work across the board for them.

when the McNairy bucks first came out people were paying what was essentially a 33% upcharge on sanders for the ability to get something a bit unique. with Rancourt its something more like 15% (debatable) and you can get something as unique as you want it to be.

that being said, if you guys want to organize a hivemind styleforum makeup some time I could probably facilitate it. we would need a volume, but it would cost less than my current MTO prices (and frankly i like any excuse to cook up new footwear)

alternatively, our summer offerings are pretty unique and the stock sole type shoes both dial in at 230USD wink.gif

 

Hamilton Boot (Blake with a captoe) in Navy shell cordovan 

post #2662 of 5327
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Originally Posted by Portland Dry Goods View Post

Frankly it's still a lucrative program. People understand the value of being able to get whatever they want. whats an extra couple bucks for a shoe thats going to hold up for a decade or two? I think part of it is also normalizing the way things work across the board for them.

when the McNairy bucks first came out people were paying what was essentially a 33% upcharge on sanders for the ability to get something a bit unique. with Rancourt its something more like 15% (debatable) and you can get something as unique as you want it to be.

that being said, if you guys want to organize a hivemind styleforum makeup some time I could probably facilitate it. we would need a volume, but it would cost less than my current MTO prices (and frankly i like any excuse to cook up new footwear)

alternatively, our summer offerings are pretty unique and the stock sole type shoes both dial in at 230USD wink.gif

I'd be game to see if we could do something using marbled black shell cordovan, which is something you can see here: http://ashlandleather.bigcartel.com/product/fat-herbie-black-marbled-shell-cordovan

In real life, it's not quite so clearly marbled. More sort of a burnished cigar look to it. Not sure what the optimal shoe would be, but considering it's a specialty leather it seems like there'd need to be some volume in order to get it done.
post #2663 of 5327
PDG: honestly you're right about the extra $20-60 not being an issue. It's really combining it with the return policy, and the 114 lasts weirdness that really impedes this for me.

Because of Rancourts cheaper resoling price, it actually was a tighter decision than it sounds. If the AEs don't fit right I may give these a better try.
post #2664 of 5327

I'm not so much opposed to the $50 MTO fee, (admittedly I liked it better when there was none) it is more about when they up charge beyond that as your design begins to deviate further from the base model.  I understand that some soles cost more than others, and that there needs to be an up charge accordingly.

 

I haven't experienced this first hand, but that seems to be what's happening based on what people are reporting.

post #2665 of 5327
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Well I asked politely what the $60 comes from. In other customized pairs of shell I haven't been quoted an extra fee. As with most things, I will check whether its negotiable.

Anyone have strong preferences for tempest vs normal leather soles? I like the ruggedness of the tempest, and it's already an expensive shoe. But still.
A tempest sole is a bit more work I believe, Carmina had issues making a similar sole too

Another thing is with all the press rancourt gets its a huge hassle for them to do individual mtos, the up charge they are charging isn't that much. Of course there are cheaper options but it depends on what you want
post #2666 of 5327
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A tempest sole is a bit more work I believe, Carmina had issues making a similar sole too

Another thing is with all the press rancourt gets its a huge hassle for them to do individual mtos, the up charge they are charging isn't that much. Of course there are cheaper options but it depends on what you want

theres also the cost of the sole itself; lactae havea being particularly expensive. anything that requires a midsole (aka anything but boat or camp) is an extra step.

Frank - that leather is bonkers. I like the idea of using a material thats a bit less common. I love CXL and typical shell makeups but its nice to have something a bit further left of center once in a while.
post #2667 of 5327
I tried to call Rancourt just now, but they must have closed for the day.

I'm about to order a pair of Natural Beefrolls, but they have a 3 week wait because they are "MTO"

Since they are already MTO do you have an idea how much they would charge for the Tempest sole?

I would need to get the leather sole topy'd right away anyhow, but $60 would do two topy's if I had someone else do it, which I'm pretty sure I could do myself in 5 minutes for less than $10.
post #2668 of 5327

I don't know how much the up-charge to tempest would be, but I have the tempest on my Blake Boots and am very impressed with it.  It's very hard rubber, which caught me off guard because I expected it to be soft like a dove-tail heel.  It is also very hard wearing.  Mine essentially show no signs of wear after about 15 wearing or so.  If you want the tempest, it is probably worth the up-charge.

 

I would also agree that you could probably put a topy on yourself, although I have never tried.

 

Don't they also have some other wacky sole that is like a tempest.  It looks like a leather sole with swiss cheese-like  holes in it, with rubber coming through those holes from a layer beneath?

post #2669 of 5327

I just bite the bullet and ordered the ranger shell in green shell.

My barron boat is 7D and I ordered the ranger moc in 7E.

After a full day wearing the barron boat with normal socks, the outer side of my feet felt painful. Lengthwise it is ok.

I guess if I go sockless I will be fine, but I planned to wear socks with the ranger moc.

So I ordered one width up.

Plus if it really goes wrong a little bit, I could still counter it with the shoelace.

 

Let's hope my thinking is correct and the $600 will not go to drain....finger crossed...

post #2670 of 5327
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Originally Posted by hkpm View Post

I just bite the bullet and ordered the ranger shell in green shell.

My barron boat is 7D and I ordered the ranger moc in 7E.

After a full day wearing the barron boat with normal socks, the outer side of my feet felt painful. Lengthwise it is ok.

I guess if I go sockless I will be fine, but I planned to wear socks with the ranger moc.

So I ordered one width up.

Plus if it really goes wrong a little bit, I could still counter it with the shoelace.

 

Let's hope my thinking is correct and the $600 will not go to drain....finger crossed...

Congratulations.

 

 

I've been looking at the Green Shell, but decided to get the #8 first.

 

I have a couple more weeks to wait.

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