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post #2537 of 5311
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post

Made to fit is a good option if you can take advantage of it. Reading your post I would suggest a size 6 for you. I say this because I can wear 11d in Trubalance, Modified, and then also in Rancourt. 11d Rancourt is a snug fit for me. If you can do made to fit, my suggeston is to try a 6d and then either a 6.5d or a 6e for the second size. Good luck.

Thank you for your advice!

I've sent a massage to Rancourt and explained my situation, and they suggested me to go up a 1/2 size larger than Alden sizing.

But since I am considering to buy a pair for the summer, planning to wear them without socks, I believe I should go with 6d or e or even 5.5d.
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Originally Posted by fitchottie View Post

Your Ranger moc would be 1/2 larger than Indy. You want room in a ranger so your foot breathes in the summer. When you go with a loafer you would want to go your indy size.

Size ref
Indy 11.5d Barrie Last
OSB 12D Ranger
11.5 Loafer
11.5D Boot
Rnacourt 12d Ranger Moc
Quoddy 12D Ranger Moc
Yuketen 12D Ranger Moc
11.5D Boot Johnson
1000 Mile 11.5D or 10eee do ask me how it just works
Red Wing Moc Boot 11.5E this is made by Rancourt
11.5 D all other Boots
Sperry 12D
Frye Boots 11.5d
Ralph Lauren Sanderson Made by Allen Edmonds 12D so could have went 11.5d


Thank you for your advice!

I've sent a massage to Rancourt and explained my situation, and they suggested me to go up a 1/2 size larger than Alden sizing.

But since I am considering to buy a pair for the summer, planning to wear them without socks, I believe I should go with 6d or e for the rangers, 5.5d or e for the loafers.
post #2539 of 5311
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Originally Posted by kenjiro0621 View Post

Thank you for your advice!

I've sent a massage to Rancourt and explained my situation, and they suggested me to go up a 1/2 size larger than Alden sizing.

But since I am considering to buy a pair for the summer, planning to wear them without socks, I believe I should go with 6d or e or even 5.5d.

Don't go too small. I'm afraid you might be disappointed by a 5.5. Again good luck. Hope you get the size right first time around.
post #2540 of 5311
Has no one in here purchased and presented some shots of the ranger moc on commando sole?
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Originally Posted by float View Post

Has no one in here purchased and presented some shots of the ranger moc on commando sole?

I have. There are plenty of pics in the thread
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Originally Posted by kenjiro0621 View Post


Hi there I came across to your post showing Navy Ranger Moc. Simply beautiful!
I've been thinking of buying a pair from Rancourt too, but I can't take the plunge since it's really hard to determine the right size. I've tried their shoe fitting guide, which I believe is identical to a brannock device, but I don't trust the result. It tends to show bigger size than the shoe size I actually get to choose. I've used the device at Alden shop in NYC, because I wanted to buy a pair of Indy boot and they made me try on pairs a lot bigger than the final pair I choose. It started in 7D and I ended up buying 6D, which is 2 full size down. I've even tried 5.5D in modified last at Moulded shoe in NYC (they specialize in Modified last) and it fit me alright in length (tight in wifth though). Trubalance last used on Indy's is the widest last in their regular lineup, by the way.
Now you seem to have a similar size to my feet and I'd like to know what size you usually wear in dress shoes, if you don't mind telling me. It could be a good reference to determine my Rancourt sizing. I am thinking to buy a pair of Venetian Loafer and to wear them in barefoot - that even makes complicated :-(
P.S. Do you get to wear those Rangers in barefoot? You are saying they are a bit loose without socks...Does the fact that them being unlined bother you? I'm also curious about the difference between unlined and lined styles.

Sorry about the delay, I haven't been around here much lately. A few things: I love the unlined with no socks combo. It's not harsh as far as I'm concerned, and I think the shoes tend to breathe better. They are pretty loose and I tie them tight, but they are comfortable.Unfortunately I don't have any Aldens for a reference point. I have a pair of Red Wing chukkas in 6D that fit best with thick socks, if that helps. I would definitely recommend getting the Made To Fit shoes, probably in 6D and 6.5D (they don't have a 5.5E), especially because the MTF shoes they send are Venetians.  Heel slippage in the Venetians will be important to look out for, and keep in mind the Ranger heel is not as high as the Venetian, and you can can't make the Venetians tighter with laces. As a bonus complication, I tried on some Quoddy Blucher mocs today and the 5.5 was tight and the 6 was loose. What the hell?

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I'm looking into getting the Ranger Mocs but was wondering if someone could help me with sizing. I currently have a pair of the Chromexal pinch penny loafers in a size 9. The 9 fits perfectly (maybe even a hair too short). I bought the 9 knowing they were a hair short but thinking they would stretch, they did, slightly. The ranger mocs I intend to wear with and without socks, depending on the time of year. Would a size 9.5 be the right size if the 9 in the pinch loafer is slightly small? 

 

Also, what do you suggest for the ranger moc, chromexal or buckaroo? I want these mocs to last as long as possible (I will obviously keep shoe trees in them). They will be worn as my everyday shoe that will get dirty. Although I love my chromexal loafers, I'm leaning towards the buckaroo for an everyday shoe. Do you agree?

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Regarding your sizing question I would simply shoot a mail out to Katie and/or Kyle, they should know best.
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Got my Rancourt for BB boat shoes in #8 shell cordovan.  They look great, and I love the style.  The only problem is with size.  I went with the largest they have - 12D.  I am a brannock 12D on the money (tending toward the E width on my right foot).  In these shoes, my big toe is right under the main seam in the front.  Not touching the front of the shoe, but REALLY close to touching the front of the shoe.  I am thinking that a little time on my foot and maybe a little time with a shoe tree will stretch it just enough (that's what happened with my shell Allen Edmonds penny loafers).  

 

Any input from anyone who was concerned initially, as I am?  

 

By the way, FrankCowperwood, they are unlined - see the pics (two stamps!)

 

   

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Shell usually doesn't stretch much if any. If you're worried about it. They're too $$$ to keep and never wear, ya know?

 

I'd wear a 12D in that Rancourt and those look awesome. I'm a brannock 12D dead on too.

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Darn. Those are really nice. Great photos too. It is always great to see those Horween stamps, isn't it?

In re. the sizing, is this your first pair from Rancourts? I can't remember.

I'll have to try a pair of mine on a little later, but my big toes are pretty close to the end of the shoe in the 11s I have. Maybe not under the stitching, though. I will say that the handstitching and the rubber sole make Rancourts very forgiving, but obviously you want to be completely satisfied with the fit.
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I would never use a shoe tree on moc toe shoes, let alone shells, unless you get one that is explicitly the correct last. Oxford-style shoes have different toe shapes, they deform it, in my opinion. I wear my moc-toe shoes with my toes very close to the tip, especially sockless. I find that shell will stretch, and more significantly, mold to you foot. So it might never stop touching your toe, but you might find that it deforms to make a nice little comfortable area for the toe. It will also get much, much softer, so that it'll feel more glove like, rather than a stiff piece of leather.

But, at the price, it might not be worth the risk, I know... I think if you like the pair, and feel the price is right, it'll likely be comfortable in the long run.
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Thanks Gents.  I think I will wear them for a bit today in the house, and make a decision.  I appreciate the thoughts on shoe trees, I hadn't focused on the differences.  This is my only pair of Rancourts, though I have quite a few shell cordovan shoes and have had a lot of top-siders and docksides in my life.  They just strike me as slightly smaller than top-siders in the same size, which at first was concerning.  

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Originally Posted by wdahab View Post

I would never use a shoe tree on moc toe shoes, let alone shells, unless you get one that is explicitly the correct last. Oxford-style shoes have different toe shapes, they deform it, in my opinion. I wear my moc-toe shoes with my toes very close to the tip, especially sockless. I find that shell will stretch, and more significantly, mold to you foot. So it might never stop touching your toe, but you might find that it deforms to make a nice little comfortable area for the toe. It will also get much, much softer, so that it'll feel more glove like, rather than a stiff piece of leather.

I think you may find this to be the case, particularly the part about the glove-like fit. That's probably an overused analogy when it comes to shoes, but I think Rancourt construction and unlined shell do merit the description.
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Originally Posted by bucksfan View Post

Thanks Gents.  I think I will wear them for a bit today in the house, and make a decision.  I appreciate the thoughts on shoe trees, I hadn't focused on the differences.  This is my only pair of Rancourts, though I have quite a few shell cordovan shoes and have had a lot of top-siders and docksides in my life.  They just strike me as slightly smaller than top-siders in the same size, which at first was concerning.  

Here's an effort to show where my big toes are when standing in my Read boat shoes in tan bulldog in my TTS of 11D. NB the rather faint red ovals...



In re shoe trees, Rancourt does sell shoe trees on their site, so I'd assume they consider them acceptable to use in their shoes, handsewn and otherwise. They don't look like anything special. Just Woodlore or similar I'd guess. I do use solid-toe shoe trees in my shell beefroll penny loafers, personally and I feel they benefit from it.

Hope these work out for you.
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