Just got these guys. I knew I wanted navy, but spent a lot of time deliberating over the other colors. I ultimately went with a honey camp sole, nickel eyelets, and white thread. I usually wear a size 6D (small feet, eh) but because everyone's been sizing down, I tried the made-to-fit shoes in 5D and 5.5D. Despite a lot of heel slippage in the 5.5D Venetians that Rancourt sent, my big toe felt crammed, and the fit was downright tight with any socks, so I got these Rangers in a 6D. I didn't want to size down to where they were a bit uncomfortable and assume they would stretch an adequate amount, because tight shoes are the worst! These Rangers are loose without socks, fit well with socks, and are tight with thick socks (I'd like to be able to wear them without, and with all manner of socks).
So how much the cxl going to stretch? I walked around the block and had to tie them pretty tight without socks.