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post #1786 of 5210
How often have we seen Brooks Brothers stock the Rancourt beefroll loafers? I'm hoping for another sale on them (brown loafers have long since sold out.)

Appreciate the insight!
post #1787 of 5210
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post

^This is what I would say too. Changing material and sole can change the cost of the shoe. You see the same model on their site at different costs based on these factors.

If they now have a straight MTO charge, though, then that's new and it would be disappointing.

I was told that anything other than what is shown on the site is considered "custom" and will incur a fee that starts at around $50, which in the case of the shoe I wanted is about a 25% increase. They added this new fee around 6 weeks ago after figuring out what they're costs are. It makes sense in that they are gearing up to have an online customization app, and will soon be bombarded by all sorts of custom orders. The flip side is that a company that doesn't overtly advertise making custom shoes (in this case Quoddy) doesn't charge for simple modifications, probably because they don't get too many custom orders and it's not a big deal to do one here and there. Anyway, I'm certainly not saying Rancourt's shoes aren't worth the (increased) price, but my thinking went from "Wow, I am definitely getting a pair of Rancourts" to "Well, since the cost is higher, maybe I should consider OSB and Quoddy as well" to "Hmm, do I even want to spend $300 on shoes right now?" We'll see.

post #1788 of 5210

Rancourt posted the video on FB again and said 

 

 

 

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VIDEO: Watch how our Blake shoes and Boots take shape and see a sneak preview of our Wingtip brogues coming Spring 2013
post #1789 of 5210
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Originally Posted by DC Office Hack View Post

This business about Blake construction led me to this wonderful thread on AAAC:

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?85307-Shoe-Construction

What I didn't understand before reading through the above is the difference between Blake and Blake Rapid, which is what Rancourt's doing. Blake is great for sleek dress shoes--arguably better than Goodyear-- but ill-suited for precisely the kinds of shoes Rancourt's making (chukkas, boots...and now possibly brogue derbies). Blake Rapid is perfect for that stuff, however. One thing that occurred to me is that once one has the capability to do Blake Rapid (the machines and the skills to use them), one can do Blake as well and make just about any kind of shoe or boot--including sleek dress shoes. I wonder if Rancourt always had this capability or only recently acquired it so as to expand its product range beyond the hand-sewn/moc construction niche. Just watching the vid, it's clear that it takes more than a machine: one needs to know what one's doing, and such skills don't appear overnight unless, I suppose, one simply recruits people who have them.

The skill that goes into making a good pair of shoes, whether by hand or machine, is impressive. My hat is off the the artisans (bet many of them would laugh at that word...)
post #1790 of 5210
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Originally Posted by rkusmant View Post

Just get my order confirmed, cherry cxl = cherry cavalier cxl, my guess = lollipop cavalier from Trickers.

oh my, now they offer cherry cxl? man, i can see me dropping more $$ for my 3rd pair of rancourt...

those new brogues are interesting too!
post #1791 of 5210
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Originally Posted by grendel View Post

Rancourt posted the video on FB again and said 



I'd be very happy if they made something like a chunky Trickers brogue, but at a lower price point.
post #1792 of 5210
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Originally Posted by NNNN View Post

I was told that anything other than what is shown on the site is considered "custom" and will incur a fee that starts at around $50, which in the case of the shoe I wanted is about a 25% increase. They added this new fee around 6 weeks ago after figuring out what they're costs are. It makes sense in that they are gearing up to have an online customization app, and will soon be bombarded by all sorts of custom orders. The flip side is that a company that doesn't overtly advertise making custom shoes (in this case Quoddy) doesn't charge for simple modifications, probably because they don't get too many custom orders and it's not a big deal to do one here and there. Anyway, I'm certainly not saying Rancourt's shoes aren't worth the (increased) price, but my thinking went from "Wow, I am definitely getting a pair of Rancourts" to "Well, since the cost is higher, maybe I should consider OSB and Quoddy as well" to "Hmm, do I even want to spend $300 on shoes right now?" We'll see.

This seems a bit odd to me. I have placed a customer order within the last 6 weeks and was not charged this fee. Are you sure the particular make up is not more expensive either due to a different leather or sole which might change the cost?

post #1793 of 5210
A fee that "starts at" $50 is not very appealing. Oh well.
post #1794 of 5210
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Originally Posted by NNNN View Post

I was told that anything other than what is shown on the site is considered "custom" and will incur a fee that starts at around $50, which in the case of the shoe I wanted is about a 25% increase. They added this new fee around 6 weeks ago after figuring out what they're costs are. It makes sense in that they are gearing up to have an online customization app, and will soon be bombarded by all sorts of custom orders. The flip side is that a company that doesn't overtly advertise making custom shoes (in this case Quoddy) doesn't charge for simple modifications, probably because they don't get too many custom orders and it's not a big deal to do one here and there. Anyway, I'm certainly not saying Rancourt's shoes aren't worth the (increased) price, but my thinking went from "Wow, I am definitely getting a pair of Rancourts" to "Well, since the cost is higher, maybe I should consider OSB and Quoddy as well" to "Hmm, do I even want to spend $300 on shoes right now?" We'll see.

Well, that's disappointing. I just got a pair of custom Quoddy's and they did a pretty decent modification, adding a chromepack saddle onto a chromepack upper (Dawson mocs), which required doing a pretty ornate piece of work on a piece of leather 2x as thick as CXL. Didn't charge me a buck extra, and got me my shoes in 2 weeks flat. Still love my Rancourts, but between that, and still not offering EEE widths, I think I probably have to go over to Quoddy for most future purchases.
post #1795 of 5210

My Quddy's involved no additional charge as well. In fact they told me their rational is that they have to make every pair by hand so it really doesnt matter what the makeup is; I would think the same logic ought to apply for Rancourt...

post #1796 of 5210

If Rancourt offers the service and people are willing to pay, then that's what it is.  I just received a pair of MTO Quoddy's as well.

post #1797 of 5210
Very true of course, PhiPsi, and it probably seems worse if you know that it is new. Someone who doesn't realize this and isn't aware of what others do or don't charge will simply see it for what it is, and that's part of the cost of getting shoes from Rancourt.
post #1798 of 5210

Has anyone else heard this from Rancourt? 

post #1799 of 5210

^ I've been emailing back and forth with someone at Rancourt to nail down the details of my next pair of shoes, and she told me basically this same thing when I asked. I gave her the feedback that they really need to mention this fee somewhere on their website, as this thread is the first place I heard about it (including it not being mentioned when asking how to go about ordering a customized pair of shoes).

It's a little bit bewildering - while I do understand the reasoning for a higher price for a made-to-order shoe, it seems to me that it would cost them the same to make a penny loafer as shown on the site as it would to make the exact same shoe with a different color sole. Especially since in both cases the shoe is being made to order for you and thus they're not filling an order from existing inventory. 

post #1800 of 5210

Just had the same experience.  Wanted to get a pinch penny loafer with leather sole and heel and the price went from 210->310 even though the exact shoe except as a beefroll loafer is 260.

 

Kind of disappointing especially when the modification free version is made only after you order it...

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