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post #1711 of 5172
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Originally Posted by unrooted View Post

Has anyone owned both Rancourt and Oak Street bootmakers to compare over the long-term?

I really like the look of both, but since I can't find a store that actually carries these I'm stuck with the interwebs. I do like the Rancourt price-point, but not sure if they are cutting corners that Oak Street isn't.

Yup. Actually like the Rancourt's better and give them a slight edge on quality. Have four pairs of Rancs now.

Count me in on the doubting side that they were made by the same factory, yet they do share some DNA. Now, a pair of Yuketen's I have looks like it is a 100% match with the OSBs I have.
post #1712 of 5172
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Originally Posted by gentpax View Post


Yup. Actually like the Rancourt's better and give them a slight edge on quality. Have four pairs of Rancs now.

Count me in on the doubting side that they were made by the same factory, yet they do share some DNA. Now, a pair of Yuketen's I have looks like it is a 100% match with the OSBs I have.

 

I think Yuketen is a good comparison for OSB. Yuketen is a designer with unique designs, but not a maker AFAIK. Similarly OSB designs their shoes then works with a maker to make them. Rancourt is a maker with mostly classic designs who is branching out with new designs and a direct-to-customer business model. For me, Rancourt's MTO program and the fact that you can customize every aspect of the shoes is really the biggest differentiator.

post #1713 of 5172
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post

Whoever makes OSB, consider that they are a reseller, while you are buying direct from Rancourt via its Website. This difference is neither good nor bad, but it may explain in part the difference in prices.

 

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I think Yuketen is a good comparison for OSB. Yuketen is a designer with unique designs, but not a maker AFAIK. Similarly OSB designs their shoes then works with a maker to make them. Rancourt is a maker with mostly classic designs who is branching out with new designs and a direct-to-customer business model. For me, Rancourt's MTO program and the fact that you can customize every aspect of the shoes is really the biggest differentiator.

Just studied "Direct channel distribution" in a class that I'm taking.  The advantages are indeed lower cost, customization, interaction (feedback) with end-user, brand control and a few others.

 

I mentioned in a post a few pages back that I referenced Rancourt in one of my assignments.

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Hi guys a newbie here, does anyone know if the 9157 are able to be resoled and if they are welted?

 

No reply at the RedWing thread so though might try my luck here.

 

Just found out it was made by Rancourt.

 

From the looks of it, it seems to have Lactae Hevea sole as well?

Although it doesnt say on the sole.

 

1000

post #1715 of 5172
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Originally Posted by takashi78 View Post

Hi guys a newbie here, does anyone know if the 9157 are able to be resoled and if they are welted?

No reply at the RedWing thread so though might try my luck here.

Just found out it was made by Rancourt.

From the looks of it, it seems to have Lactae Hevea sole as well?
Although it doesnt say on the sole.

1000
Welcome to the thread. I believe that's a crepe sole and I am almost positive that it can be resoled. Rancourt site says they can resole all of their models and there are even some good shots in their statigram feed of some pretty beat up mocs before and after.
post #1716 of 5172
Here is the final version I think I am going with. I am very excited and hope it looks good...


Ranger Moc:
Espresso shell cordovan (polished as opposed to matte finished if possible)
Full leather midsole with natural edge stain and beige stitching
Montello Minilug sole
Brown stitching
Waxed canvas laces
Gold/Brown nylon taslan laces also included
Antique brass eyelets
Unlined
post #1717 of 5172
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Looks a lot like a Wolverine, doesn't it?  

 

Not really. They are both CXL goodyear welted workboots but the profiles aren't that close. The lasts are very different. That said, the average guy on the street would make the same assumption.

 

Oak St. Trench, Wolverine 1K and Redwing 9011/Beckman

 

 

 

 

post #1718 of 5172
OSB did a smashing job on the Trench boot.

Have you all seen these Rancourts at Hickorees? It gets no love here, but this remains my favorite Rancourt boot. Not sure I can roll with the red though!

http://www.hickorees.com/brand/rancourt--co/product/the-grey-boot-5-eyelet-suede-moccasin-boot-red-hickorees-exclusive
post #1719 of 5172
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

 

Not really. They are both CXL goodyear welted workboots but the profiles aren't that close. The lasts are very different. That said, the average guy on the street would make the same assumption.

 

Oak St. Trench, Wolverine 1K and Redwing 9011/Beckman

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not looking to enter in to an internet pissing contest, but that's not the OSB boot or the Wolverine that was being referred to.  Check the link from a page or 2 back, it was a cap toe.

 

Wolverine:

 

Photo Courtesy of Calkid

 

OSB:

 

 

If you still don't think that they look similar, than I will be content to simply respect your opinion.

 

(I acknowledge that they are different colors, one has speed hooks and the other doesn't, ect. I did not say that they are identical)

post #1720 of 5172
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Not looking to enter in to an internet pissing contest, but that's not the OSB boot or the Wolverine that was being referred to.  Check the link from a page or 2 back, it was a cap toe.

Wolverine:



Photo Courtesy of Calkid

OSB:




If you still don't think that they look similar, than I will be content to simply respect your opinion.

(I acknowledge that they are different colors, one has speed hooks and the other doesn't, ect. I did not say that they are identical)

If I am correct that's the 744 shell wolverine ... Love that boot
post #1721 of 5172
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Originally Posted by Michael Haines View Post

If I am correct that's the 744 shell wolverine ... Love that boot

Yeah, that's a 744 in shell, I have a pair, got them cheap(ish) in seconds, they are by far my favorite shoe. Comparing shell cordovan to natural cxl is like apples to oranges, so the OSB, Rancourt, and 744 boots just aren't comparable. Also, the Wolverines, whether shell or cxl, plain or cap toe, have a much more bulbous toe than OSB, Rancourt's, and its internally reinforced. So it's definitely a fair thing to say that the profile is vastly different.

Also, construction is different with all of them. Rancourt's are lined and blake constructed, Wolverine 1Ks (which are all CXL) are unlined and 180 goodyear, 744s (a collab with Allen Edmonds) are unlined and 360 goodyear, and OSB trench boots are lined and 360.

For what it's worth, my dream boot (from any of those guys) would be a plain toe, thick natural shell, sleek profile, unlined, 360 goodyear storm-welt boot. Especially the storm-welting, since I wear my boots (including my 744s that are not storm-welted) in the elements like they were intended.
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I don't contest any of the differences that you identify, I simply said that they look a like.  I didn't say they were direct comparisons either in terms of material or construction.

 

One could say that Sperry and Rancourt boat shoes look a like, even though there are differences in construction and material.

 

Again, if others fail to identify a resemblance, that is fine.  I'm not looking to convince anyone to adopt my point of view.

post #1723 of 5172
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Again, if others fail to identify a resemblance, that is fine.  I'm not looking to convince anyone to adopt my point of view.

 

I don't think anyone's arguing with you. Both are cap toe work boots after all and as such do look alike.

 

The reason you get responses to that comment is that the details are what makes them very different and as this is an enthusiast's forum, those details get examined to the nth degree.

 

No interest in a pissing contest either. The shell cap toe 1k are a gorgeous pair of boots.

post #1724 of 5172

Since the Wolverine 744 Ltd. Boot was referenced I thought it would be fun to show the difference between Rancourt's 'Espresso' Cordovan and Horween's #449 Cordovan on the 744 Boot.

 

 

 

 

post #1725 of 5172

Nice shine (on both), what is your regime?

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