H&M x Lanvin Collaboration - Page 5

Originally Posted by nativebelle

I understand that the post was flawed in a lot of ways, but I don't understand why everybody took a post that was at the very least cohesive and well-intentioned as an opportunity to point and laugh (and pat themselves on the back).

Originally Posted by nativebelle

a post that was at the very least cohesive and well-intentioned

Originally Posted by AR_Six

Uh you mean ignorant and masturbatory? There is nothing more annoying than someone who doesn't know what he's talking about trying to sound like some sort of visionary who sees what the "snobs", in this case, don't.

Originally Posted by alainsoir

What snobs!

This makes perfect sense. H&M is by far the most stylish of the mass-market retailers, and their cuts, designs, and fabrics (even if it's just the 'look' of the fabrics) perfectly replicate high fashion. I always hear people complain about the quality of H&M, but I've never found it problematic. If you're buying the LOGG or DIVIDED brands, which are intended for frat boys and teenage boys respectively, why are you expecting high fashion? (But still probably they're designed with the intention of surviving a frat boy and teenager.)

But their "H&M" line stuff to me has a perfect fit, and maintains the "new" look for a long time. If you wash the clothes and don't put them in the dryer (and don't wash jeans unless you fell in a mud puddle), and then iron them, they're perfectly fine garments. I'd say their fits/styles are much better than, say, ZARA (whose shirts always scratch my skin), and much better than GAP and even supposedly classier mid-level retailers like Club Monaco and Banana Republic. I'd go so far as to say I'd rather shop at H&M than Acne.

And what is this criticizing Lanvin for wanting to collaborate with H&M? Clearly they see a big name retailer that actually cares about fashion. It's like Lagerfeld"”he doesn't hold poorer people in contempt. He wants them to be able to enjoy fashion as well. (And oftentimes the poorer ones have much more style and creativity.) And for the person who invoked YSL, he himself would never be so snobbish to denigrate H&M"”he himself started the Rive Gauche stores, said perfect style was a black turtleneck and a blazer, and wished that he had invented the blue jean.

Originally Posted by AR_Six

^ A Xenox in the making. You may want to keep those strong opinions to yourself or blunt the edges a bit until you have some idea what you're talking about.

On topic though when do we see this? I haven't been keeping track but will admit it piques curiosity.

Originally Posted by AR_Six

Notice how it's always the people with under 100 posts who, utterly unable to puzzle this shit out for themselves, come to the conclusion that the only possible explanation is "SF Groupthink"?

Originally Posted by alainsoir

Well, I at least thank Makeshift_Robot for being the only replying poster to attempt to discuss the issues raised in my comment. I gave three paragraphs of examples ("masturbatory"), and received nothing but ad hominem, personal attacks in reply. That's childish (and, yes, snobbish).

Originally Posted by DLester

this was the part that got me. "perfectly replicate?" do not agree:

Originally Posted by macuser3of5

I miss the old h&m that didn't ask permission to make shitty repros of designer goods.