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post #46 of 71
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Originally Posted by base615 View Post
Not sure if anyone's mentioned it yet but you could always look out for a Watchco SM300 instead of vintage. Essentially a vintage movement inside a new (not NOS but genuine Omega) case / dial. Fully recognised by Omega for servicing etc and you essentially get the same look as the vintage SM300 but in a brand new watch.

I have 10 vintage Omegas including the classics (Pie Pan Connie, Speedie, early bumper etc) but my SM300 is by far my favourite, just such a classic watch. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a no date sub too but I'd never flick the SM300 to get one. At the end of the day it's which one you prefer as they're both great watches.

Here's mine:




Do you find you can get COSC accuracy out of the non chronometer 552 movement?
post #47 of 71
Funny you should ask because I just checked my SM300 an couple of weeks ago. It runs about +8 at the moment so it's a bit out but it's due for a service so that may improve. It doesn't really bother me since I change my watch every day and don't use a winder so I always have to set it before wearing it anyway.
post #48 of 71
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Originally Posted by westinghouse View Post
What moron would pay thousands for a stainless steel watch when you can have a solid 18k gold watch for tens of thousands?

I've only seen three of these in my life and one is on my wrist right now

So much for all that dime a dozen nonsense...

Holy crap!!!! That's alot of gold....yellow gold. Shouldn't all this be in Fort Knox?

TBH I would agree (if I had the money) with your statement if it was white gold or platinum (or any platinum group elements). You really have to have a very specific complexion for that much yellow gold to work.
post #49 of 71
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Originally Posted by nurktwin View Post
Here's the modern day Omega 2254.50 which was recently discontinued:


My personal fav... but i might be a bit biased. Also, not my shot, but daaamn:



post #50 of 71
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Wanted to share these photos (taken by a poster named FlyPenFly) of an Omega SM300. This is the "Watchco" version. Watchco is a company in Australia that was an authorized Omega service center and takes "new," genuine Omega factory service parts such as dials, cases, hands, bracelets etc -- and then inserts a serviced, pristine vintage Omega cal 552 24 jewel movement from the 1960s. You essentially end up with a "brand new" looking Seamaster 300 as they appeared circa 1968. In fact, if you had an old beat up inoperable SM300 and sent it to Omega in Bienne for service, Omega would use these same replacement parts to restore your watch.

Note the clean lines, lack of helium release valve, domed crystal and matte dial (no waves) which differentiate the classic vintage styling from modern day Seamasters.

Click on images for high resolution view.

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Edited by nurktwin - 4/8/12 at 7:10am
post #51 of 71
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Here's some SM300 Watchco lume shots (not my photos):

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post #52 of 71
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Again, not my photos, but more shots of SM300, this time on 1171 bracelet. It's all brushed and has a vintage taper, unlike newer Omega bracelets:

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post #53 of 71
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It should be noted that the "sword hands" in the SM300 above were innovated by Omega in the 1960s. Ironically, one of the most sought after Rolex Subs are the 1970s models that mimic the 1960s Omega sword hands. Note also how the 1970s Sub below also mimics the 1960s Omega SM300 seconds sweep hand.

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post #54 of 71
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A great SM300 photo by a guy named mrsnak:

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post #55 of 71
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Found this picture online of a new 2012 Rolex Sub. It looks like Rolex really inflated the lugs on their new cases? I guess they are trying to make their watches look bigger while maintaining the same 40mm bezel diameter? What do you guys think of these new Rolex cases?

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post #56 of 71

I faced the same dilemma as the OP some years back.  The decision was clear once scarcity was taken into account. I snagged a gorgeous vintage SM300 big triangle within 10 minutes of an ad being posted - and I wasn't the first respondent either (I had the good fortune to live in the same country as the seller, though).

 

That being said, the thirst for classics like the Sub and Seadweller never quite went away. I now find myself perusing the vintage rolex market for 70s-80s patina'd sports models with alarming frequency. 

post #57 of 71
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Originally Posted by nurktwin View Post

What do you guys think of these new Rolex cases?

I, for one, hate 'em.

The SM300 Watchco you posted looks great.
Edited by Kaplan - 4/8/12 at 5:52am
post #58 of 71
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Originally Posted by lysandar View Post

I faced the same dilemma as the OP some years back.  The decision was clear once scarcity was taken into account. I snagged a gorgeous vintage SM300 big triangle within 10 minutes of an ad being posted - and I wasn't the first respondent either (I had the good fortune to live in the same country as the seller, though).

That being said, the thirst for classics like the Sub and Seadweller never quite went away. I now find myself perusing the vintage rolex market for 70s-80s patina'd sports models with alarming frequency. 

Please post pics of your SM300 big triangle! There are rumors that Watchco may be closing up shop. I have no idea is this is true. Watchco put a lot of stuff on sale recently on ebay and appear to be dumping their parts inventory. So the Watchco SM300s may become scarce. If so, this may result in prices for both the unrestored vintage SM300s and the Watchco SM300s increasing in price in coming years due to increasing scarcity.

There is a guy named Bill Yao, owner of MKII watches, who is making an SM300 homage. Click here for more info: http://www.mkiiwatches.com/watch-collections/limited-editions-series/project-300/

I don't know how he is going to price it or when it will be available, but it may be more affordable than vintage or a Watchco. I think he's been working on this watch for about 3 years. Should be interesting to see when it comes out.

Here's the info from the MKII page on the SM300 homage called "Project 300"
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Project “300″ is our latest project and our second collaboration with online collectors. This watch will be a limited edition of 300 pieces paying homage to the “Omega Seamaster 300″¹.
The pre-order will be offered in one stage and this project will be forumer sponsored. (Please note that timetable is currently under revision – we will be trying out a visual time line.)
Validation of interest: January – March 2011. We will need to reach 150 confirmed pre-orders to proceed to the next phase.
Design phase: Currently active (Oct. 28, 2011)
Delivery: Estimate is pending revision upon completion of design phase (Disclaimer: This time frame is only an estimate and will be updated as required. Please take note that given the complexity of this watch delays are a strong possibility.)
Please note that the images at the top of the page are for reference purposes only and are not the actual watch. We will be designing the watch based on the reference images. The watch pictured above is a military Seamaster 300 that I owned quite a few years ago. The watch stands alone as the only watch that I collected that I actually made a profit on when I sold it. Not surprisingly I sold the watch because I could never get comfortable wearing such a valuable and fragile piece. Since I am not one for collecting watches for the sake of collecting them I sold it on to a collector that has given it a good home.

In order to increase the transparency of this project over that of the Kingston we will be posting all of the project updates, pictures, drawings, and changes that are decided by the Plank-owners here on this page. Links to official threads for the project will be listed below. This should relieve participants of the need to hunt for the latest updates on the forum and to reduce the confusion about the status of the project and its current iteration.
Project 300 Design Threads:
Watch Name: “Project 300″
Discussion: Case Back Design
Discussion: Dial and Case Design
Re-visit of Project 300 size survey now closed (This is the general survey. The link to the Plankowners’ survey was sent via e-mail. If you are a Plankowner only use the link found in the e-mail to take the survey, do not take the survey that is linked on this page. (Survey is closed: Results posted.)

Updated January 24, 2012 for the result of the “Re-visit of Project 300 Size Survey)
These specifications supersede those published on the E-boutique
Diameter 41.40 mm across bezel (not including crown)
Length 48.75-49.25 mm
Case height 12.00 – 13.00 mm (estimate)
Case material 316L Stainless steel
Water resistance 200 or 300 meters depending on case design
Bezel 60 or 120 click uni-directional bezel with sapphire inlay.
Strap attachment Spring bars
Crystal High domed sapphire crystal with AR coating on the interior surface only
Crown Double gasket screw down crown.
Movement Elabore grade Rhodium plated ETA 2824-2 decorated with Geneva stripes
Luminous material BG W9 (white color, blue glow)
Dial Date and non-date “Big Triangle” dial at a minimum
Handset Mk II MOD Sword hands (see LRRP) with new tooling for seconds hand.
Bracelet Solid link bracelet. We will try for a solid-end link bracelet but our fall back will be a folded-end piece solid link bracelet.
post #59 of 71

I prefer Omega due mostly to having inherited a Constellation in 98.

post #60 of 71
Can't go wrong with either a good condition vintage Sub or an SM300. Both will hold their value well, and both are sought after by collectors. Of course, the market for good condition, all-original Rolex sports watches (Subs, Dwellers, GMTs, and Explorers) seems to be growing every day, and the prices reflect that.

I think the Watchco SM300s are very cool, in that they are totally OEM creations. If you don't need tritium hands and indices, or a plastic crystal, these are really pretty amazing (for me, though, tritium and plastic make these pieces). Imagine how fast the equivalent "NOS" 5513s and 1680s would sell if they existed.
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