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post #1 of 16
8/30/10 at 2:41am
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There was a show on national geographic called "Grizzly Face to Face". The focus of the show was a bear named Rocky that was in a Will Ferrel movie called Semi Pro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bEwGGbWuWw). Long story short, it killed one of the trainers with a bite to the neck. They actually showed the attack unedited. The bear grabbed him by the neck and had ahold of him for about 6 seconds before they were able to pepper spray him off. The guy got up afterwards and ran away, but ended up bleeding to death before paramedics arrived. After watching the Timothy Treadwell thing and other shows about "experts", are they collectively stupid, or just extremely narcissistic? Some memorable quotes from the show: "It was a mystery why the bear attacked" "Law enforcement will have to determine if the attack was an accident, or a mauling. If it was a mauling, the bear will be considered dangerous" "It's possible that Rocky's actions that day could have been linked to his training" - yes, that or his actions could have been the result of him being a grizzly bear Randy Miller was the owner of the bear. He trains a lot of animals for major films. His cousin was the trainer that died. It will be a miracle if this idiot lives another decade.
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post #2 of 16
8/30/10 at 2:43am
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"It's possible that Rocky's actions that day could have been linked to his training" - yes, that or his actions could have been the result of him being a grizzly bear

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post #3 of 16
8/30/10 at 3:00am
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Originally Posted by kwilkinson View Post

The worst part is that these same questions are asked every time this sort of thing happens.

How many follow up questions are needed when you know that the guy was wrestling with a grizzly bear? The questions should come when the bear HASN'T mauled someone, which would be unusual. The bear mauling this guy was probably the most natural thing that occurred at this training facility in years.
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post #4 of 16
8/30/10 at 9:25am
Yeah, I am always amazed by how "surprised" everyone one is about this kind of thing. Sure you can train a wild animal but it is still fundamentally a wild animal, a pet chimpanzee is not a pet dog, and still retains it's wild instincts. Something like a grizzly bear where we pretty much fall within the size range of things it normally eats always seems particularly likely to, you know, try to eat you one day.

Only slightly related, but quite interesting - a team of russian scientists managed to breed passive, domesticated rats and homicidally angry rats from the same stock showing just how much of that is in the genes. There work has only really come to the attention of the western science fairly recently -
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/25/he...rats.html?_r=1
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post #5 of 16
8/30/10 at 9:35am
Long ago, a Russian scientist/veterinarian who was stationed out in B.F. Siberia or something on a fur farm began experimenting on foxes. He found he could basically breed passive, 'domesticated' foxes in 9 generations or something, and as they became more domesticated, they physically changed as well (ears became droopy, colors changed, etc).
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post #6 of 16
8/30/10 at 9:50am
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Originally Posted by crazyquik View Post
Long ago, a Russian scientist/veterinarian who was stationed out in B.F. Siberia or something on a fur farm began experimenting on foxes. He found he could basically breed passive, 'domesticated' foxes in 9 generations or something, and as they became more domesticated, they physically changed as well (ears became droopy, colors changed, etc).

The same guys, as far as I am aware, as did the rats. They couldn't do the genetic research we can do now, so all of their work is being looked over in Germany now in an attempt to find a (or more likely several) domestication gene.
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post #7 of 16
8/30/10 at 5:52pm
I was sad to find out that this thread wasn't about these cute and cuddly guys:

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post #8 of 16
8/30/10 at 10:59pm
Got exited for no reason.

Wrong type of predator
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post #9 of 16
8/30/10 at 11:41pm
he attatcked the trainer because hes a wild fcking animal

my source: common sense
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post #10 of 16
8/31/10 at 1:56am
bear probably didn't like will ferrell, or maybe went crazy from woody harrelson's smell....
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post #11 of 16
8/31/10 at 2:05am
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bear probably didn't like will ferrell, or maybe went crazy from woody harrelson's smell....
I would have thought all the weed Woody's smoking would have calmed him down. Better question: Can you get a bear high?
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post #12 of 16
8/31/10 at 2:50am
When I saw the movie, I thought the bear was fake anyway. How can this not be done with CG/animatronics/GuyInSuit - especially for a big budget comedy film where absolulte realism isn't that important?
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post #13 of 16
8/31/10 at 5:30am
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
I would have thought all the weed Woody's smoking would have calmed him down.

Nah it gave him the munchies.
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post #14 of 16
8/31/10 at 8:47pm
Speaking of big predators ... early this morning a mountain lion was killed at Shattuck & Cedar ... right in Berkeley.
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post #15 of 16
8/31/10 at 9:01pm
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I would have thought all the weed Woody's smoking would have calmed him down.

Better question: Can you get a bear high?

obviously you raytard.


one time they tried to tame my cack for a film but it couldnt be! its wild and free!
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